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Google: "Based on this feedback and our ongoing conversations with the community, we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified. We are designing this flow specifically to resist coercion, ensuring that users aren't tricked into bypassing these safety checks while under pressure from a scammer. It will also include clear warnings to ensure users fully understand the risks involved, but ultimately, it puts the choice in their hands."

Thank god. I would've ditched Android for good if this went through, and while it sounds like it would be annoying for casual users to enable unverified apps, at least we can still install them.

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[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

AOSP makes a lot more sense to me. We just need to adopt Graphene or Lineage en masse and start contributing to support more devices, grow that out into a real alternative with support for the already existing android app ecosystem, and real alternatives to Google Play services

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Aosp makes more sense as a short term strategy, but google is making developing graphene harder, linux mobile is a much better long term strategy

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter, you fork into something else entirely. It's a hell of a lot easier to leverage the android ecosystems in a diverging fork than it is to build a whole new niche platform

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Linux mobile will be harder to build but in the long run will be vastly better, but it's admittedly a very long run.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This makes no sense. Anything you can build Linux into, you can do the same to android

That's true, but android has some pretty fundamental issues that would take some massive rewrites to fully resolve, not to mention that if we switched to linux patches wouldn't have to be written for multiple operating systems.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

The second I hear about a Linux mobile operating system that has even decent screen reader support, I will be switching.

Magnification in Linux desktops in particular has not been that difficult, but screen readers are a whole different can of worms.

I figure Linux Mobile will be able to do magnification properly as they do it fine on desktop and they can just copy the gestures from Android if nothing else.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Graphene doesn't fix the problem because it's only available on Pixel devices

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Try reading what I said

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Not for long. They're going to start working with their own OEM.

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about Play Integrity / Safetynet?

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah when are Linux phones going to be compatible

[–] Lightfire228@pawb.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Waydroid doesn't intend on supporting it. It's a piece of code that checks for evidence of "tampering" (such as an unlocked bootloader, or root access), and sends those bits of data off to Google's servers for verification

It's antithetical to Waydroid and device freedom, and is used by banking apps for "security" reasons, as well as media apps for piracy reasons

And is a massive pain for anyone who root's their devices

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Right... So what was your point again?