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[–] FreedomAdvocate -4 points 1 month ago (23 children)

I’m sorry…..people have been saying these are better than Tesla’s FSD and they can’t even go on a highway?!

[–] Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (20 children)

because it is better... teslas full self driving literally causes accidents all the time because of not using actual sensors for depth and lidar, there have been tons of cases of people using their teslas on freeways and it just crashes them out of nowhere, they just don't care about forcing out a release even if its extremely dangerous and proven to be so

[–] FreedomAdvocate -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tesla uses cameras for depth sensing. If you don’t understand how that works, do some research.

[–] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do research in 3D computer vision and in general, depth from cameras (even multi view) tends to be much noisier than LiDAR. LiDAR has the advantage of giving explicit depth, whereas with multiview cameras you need to compute it, which has a fair amount of failure modes. I think that's what the above user is getting at when they said Waymo actually has depth sensing.

This isn't to say that Tesla's approach can't work at all, but just that Waymo's is more grounded. There are reasons to avoid LiDAR (cost primarily, a good LiDAR sensor is very expensive), but if you can fit LiDAR into your stack it'll likely help a bit with reliability.

[–] Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

that is exactly what i meant by it yes, predictive depth using cameras is way less reliable as it is vs direct sensors that are expensive but if they cant make something cheaply that wont kill you it shouldn't be sold period

[–] Jumpropegazing@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm glad someone else already said it but camera depth sensing is way less functioning and safe than these other sensors and is way more prone to environmental factors fucking with it. You should do some research instead of listing off something elon says without any understanding....

[–] FreedomAdvocate 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing I said is wrong. Using just 2 cameras you can do depth sensing.

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