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"The collecting society GEMA, which manages the rights of composers, lyricists and music publishers and has approximately 100,000 members, filed the case against OpenAI in November 2024."

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[–] Vintor@retrolemmy.com 32 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

All of that is incorrect.

You can check the GEMA fees here: https://www.gema.de/portal/app/tarifrechner/preisrechner - I had it calculate the fees for a 4-hour concert with 100 seats and an entrance fee of 5 Euros, and the total GEMA fee is 31,35 €. If all seats are filled, that is less than 10% of your income. Certainly a lot of money, but a far cry from "all of said fee or even more".

Secondly, if you are not a GEMA member and all the music you play is non-GEMA (and written by yourself), you don't have to pay anything, see here for example: https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/gema (central quote: "Der GEMA-Pflicht unterliegen dabei alle Musikwerke, für die sie die Verwertungsrechte erhalten hat", translation: "GEMA liability applies to all musical works for which it has received exploitation rights.")

I don't like the GEMA either, but let's stay with the verifiable facts, please.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

GEMA's social media game is certainly top. Nice to see the money being put to good use.

If all seats are filled,

Sure. Everyone's Taylor Swift. Let's just assume that.


The actual truth is that if you do not play GEMA music, you have to provide evidence of that to GEMA. Young musicians who foolishly reason that they don't have anything to do with GEMA will be dragged through court.

[–] Vintor@retrolemmy.com 10 points 9 hours ago

sigh If more than 7 seats out of 100 are filled, you will make a profit. Happier?

I'm not going to comment on your second paragraph, since it doesn't contradict what I wrote. And if I were a GEMA shill, I probably wouldn't provide links for my claims, but you do you.