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Am I the only one here that got really bad experience with nextcloud and didn't figured how to make it work correctly?

I'm talking about painfully slow login pages, ages to show files, even upgraded hardware with disk entirely capable of saturing full gig network connection and still...
Getting only about ~30ish MB/s when downloading from nextcloud.
Incredly slow document loading with collabora..

Even if my hardware is not new-gen, a app like immich works flawlessly and loads everything instantly.
Is it the fault of next cloud or am I doing something wrong?
Are alternatives like seafile or openCloud better?

Willing your help fellow selfhosters

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It's out of date, and in desperate need of a rewrite. PHP might have been an okay choice 15 years ago, but no one in their right mind should be using PHP for modern server development. (Yes I'm calling out Pixelfed too). With so many languages and frameworks, that's probably one of the worst right now.

Then it was proven that they don't really get modern infrastructure either, as their docker containers depend on stateful code, with combinations of environment variables and php files that need to be stored in volumes, and then plugins which are also stateful - meaning that on new updates they need to go through an "update" process. This is directly opposite of good practice as docker containers should be 100% immutable and be able to run just by using docker run. They also have required volume mounts scattered throughout the OS, it was just never designed with containers in mind.

I can't recommend nextcloud right now, it's incredibly brittle and slow.