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Imagine being so propagandized to leave a comment like that
Imagine standing up for either of these countries.
Exactly, just imagine standing up for the atrocities that CPC subjects the people of China to. I mean just look at these horrors!
90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China%E2%80%99s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4
People in China enjoy high levels of social mobility https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html
Student debt in China is virtually non-existent because education is not run for profit. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jlim/2016/08/29/why-china-doesnt-have-a-student-debt-problem/
China massively invests in public infrastructure. They used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/12/05/china-used-more-concrete-in-3-years-than-the-u-s-used-in-the-entire-20th-century-infographic/
China also built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/high-speed/ten-years-27000km-china-celebrates-a-decade-of-high-speed/
What sane person would want to live in that sort of a hellscape.
Great, thanks for picking all the best bits. Now do all the bad bits too, for both countries if you like, I have no bias.
Oh, congratulations on achieving the impossible. I wasn't aware I was speaking to an omniscient deity floating in a vacuum.
Saying "I have no bias" doesn't make you neutral, it just means you're dangerously unaware of how human cognition works. Bias isn't a character flaw you can opt out of, it is the inevitable result of having a subjective point of view. Unless you possess total, universal information (which you don't), your entire worldview is built on the limited data you've consumed, the specific environment you inhabit, and the people you interact with.
You are filtering reality through a unique lens just like the rest of us. Pretending you aren't doesn't make you "objective", it just makes you the most unreliable narrator in the room because you're too blind to see your own blind spots.
So there are no bad things about China?
Sure, no human society is perfect. However, it's clear to anybody who has even a shred of intellectual honesty that on the whole Chinese society works in the interest of the people of China. Let mew know if you're still struggling with this concept.
Thank you.
imagine not knowing the difference between a murderous empire wreaking havoc in the world for centuries and china.
Exactly, glad we agree to not stand up for the US.
we do, actually.