In the states it also varies a lot. You have groups like the the socialist rifle association, but lots of american leftists are also anti-gun, there's a range of views on the subject.

I would guess its the majority of american leftists that are anti-gun, but I could certainly be mistaken

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm an American leftist who isn't overly fond of guns, but the way I see it, our choices are:

The fascists are the only ones with guns
The fascists aren't the only ones with guns

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz -5 points 2 months ago

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Outside of the US there are also differing opinions. I support guns for self defense. I don't like guns, but who am I to tell marginalized people to stay unarmed as the state tramples over them.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Rule number (i forgot which number) of the internet is that everyone is a white, american, male until proven otherwise.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Quick, name a revolution resulting in decolonization or AES that didn't involve guns? I'll wait forever.

[–] CyanideShotInjection@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is a nuance between knowing that no revolution was made without arms and "loving guns"... If I ever have to use one, I know I won't love it.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online -1 points 2 months ago

Well if you think that people and leftists don't like guns then I guess you've never been to India or Mexico

[–] thefool@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm just wondering what the Advanced Encryption Standard has to do with guns or revolutions

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually Existing Socialism, ie the former USSR and current Cuba, PRC, Vietnam, etc.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not my socialism.

"... we are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality;... " -- Mikhail Bakunin

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Cool, except socialism in AES has brought liberty to the working class. Sloganeering isn't a substitute for a point.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I suggest reading theory and learning more about national liberation movements if you have the time, it seems we agree on ideals already, but we're all victims of Western anticommunist and imperialist propaganda