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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

So they've taken a leaf out of KDE's development book.

Is windows11 Microsoft's KDE4 moment?

[–] ne0phyte@feddit.org 11 points 13 hours ago

I feel like Windows 11 is just another Microsoft "Windows moment".

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Does it have to be a DE?

Preferred WM is Xmonad (with my tabular boonad config, the grandpa version).

But much love also for herbstluftwm.

And dwm, openbox, icewm, i3, and others.

I have all these window managers in my wmrotate scripts in my wminizer script, so I can kill one and move to the next, without losing all running gui programs, keeping my X11 session going.

But if it has to be strictly DE...

I guess LXDE's still my fave.

Respect to XFCE and Trinity too. And Mate.

KDE's awesome. Big love to it again, after it got settled in after the KDE4 debacle.

LXQt's fine too (though I prefer LXDE).

I've not tried Cosmic.

I dont know my way around cinnamon and the various other similar. Only briefly experienced.

GNOME have utterly lost the plot.

Why'd you ask?

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm what some call a "normie" Linux user, so I like desktop environments. I run KDE Neon on my main workstation, and then I have a laptop running CachyOS.

You seem like an expert who has strong opinions. I'm interested to listen and read about people's likes and dislikes about niche subjects, such as desktop environments.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's frightening to me that I seem like an expert.

I also don't think I have "strong opinions". Just ever evolving preferences as I continue to explore.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'll adjust and say that you're, in my eyes, a "power user", since I had not considered running my daily driver "headless" with WMs instead of with a DE until your comment. If "strong opinions" is too "strong", I'll also adjust and say I am interested in said evolving preferences and, more importantly, the reasoning behind them.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 hours ago

Good stuff.

Though, I don't think "headless" is the correct term there.

I asked Mistral LLM to check...

define headless, in terms of computing

In computing, "headless" refers to a system, device, or software that operates without a graphical user interface (GUI) or direct user interaction via a monitor, keyboard, or mouse. Instead, it is controlled remotely or through command-line interfaces (CLIs), APIs, or network protocols. Key Aspects of Headless Computing:

No Local Display: The system lacks a physical screen or input devices attached directly to it. Remote Management: Users interact with the system over a network (e.g., SSH, RDP, or web interfaces). Common Use Cases:

Servers: Headless servers are standard in data centers, where administrators manage them remotely. Embedded Systems: Devices like Raspberry Pi or IoT gadgets often run headless to save resources. Virtualization: Headless virtual machines or containers are managed via hypervisors or orchestration tools. Automation: Headless browsers (e.g., Puppeteer, Selenium) automate web tasks without rendering a GUI.

Example: A headless Raspberry Pi might run a home automation script, accessible only via SSH or a web dashboard, with no monitor or keyboard connected. Would you like examples of headless software or tools?

Some do use their GNU+Linux (or BSD or others), running in just TTY, just the terminal, without X11 or wayland, but even then that does not necessarily mean no GUI, with some graphical tools (like "mpv" is a good example) able to run without a graphical server (and certainly at least TUI... the web browser "browsh" is a good example). And not necessarily not headless either, with either direct use, or perhaps ssh'ing in through a network, or just running things configured to automate (as per the example the LLM gave). "Dumb terminals" are another related thing, where the "head" is separate.