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Decreasing Certificate Lifetimes to 45 Days (letsencrypt.org)
submitted 1 month ago by artiman@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Let’s Encrypt will be reducing the validity period of the certificates we issue. We currently issue certificates valid for 90 days, which will be cut in half to 45 days by 2028.
This change is being made along with the rest of the industry, as required by the CA/Browser Forum Baseline Requirements, which set the technical requirements that we must follow. All publicly-trusted Certificate Authorities like Let’s Encrypt will be making similar changes. Reducing how long certificates are valid for helps improve the security of the internet, by limiting the scope of compromise, and making certificate revocation technologies more efficient.

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[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 55 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The point is, if the certificate gets stolen, there's no GOOD mechanism for marking it bad.

If your password gets stolen, only two entities need to be told it's invalid. You and the website the password is for.

If an SSL certificate is stolen, everyone who would potentially use the website need to know, and they need to know before they try to contact the website. SSL certificate revocation is a very difficult communication problem, and it's mostly ignored by browsers because of the major performance issues it brings having to double check SSL certs with a third party.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The point is, if the certificate gets stolen, there's no GOOD mechanism for marking it bad.

That’s what OCSP is for. Only Google isn’t playing along as per that wiki entry.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, are you intending to retroactively add SSL to every tool implementing SSL in the past few decades?…

Browsers aren’t the only thing that ingress SSL.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Then there’s the older way of checking CRLs which any tool of the past few decades should support.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's what Carla are for.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How did you reply to a deleted comment?

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

Probably the comment has federated to lemmy.world, but the deletion of the comment hasn't yet.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like autoincorrect did a s/CRLs/Carla/ for you.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

And that somehow Lemmy didn't federate my deletion!

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But browsers have a marker for dangerous sites - surely Cloudflare, Amazon or Google should have a report system and deliver warnings at the base

[–] False@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Browsers are only a (large) fraction of SSL traffic.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So is there an example of SSL certs being stolen and used nefariously. Only thing that sticks out to me is certificate authorities being bad.