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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at Trump and conclude that he’s infinitely worse

This line is smoking gun proof that everyone in this thread trying to engage with you is talking exclusively over your head.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I take it that means you disagree. Well congratulations, your orange man won. Was it worth it?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago) (1 children)

He’s not our man. Previously:

It’s not wrong to say regulatory capture is a problem, it just doesn’t go far enough. The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

The game is rigged. The election cycle’s pomp and circumstance is to divert your energy and attention from the fact that it’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

He’s not our man.

No, he's not. Despite that, there sure are a lot of folks here who were eager to hand him the keys of the country, and continue to to defend their choice.

The game is rigged. The election cycle’s pomp and circumstance is to divert your energy and attention from the fact that it’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.

Mostly agree, with the caveat that it's not all pomp and circumstance, only mostly pomp and circumstance. Take genocide for example, which seems to be the theme of the thread: we didn't get the choice of no genocide, our only options were more vs less. Those are shitty options, but if we have that wiggle room, it's worth voting for less in order to prevent more. Damage mitigation. Still genocide, still shitty options, but tangibly distinct options.

We're given a crumb of freedom - use it. It's the only official voice we've got.

Fortunately there lots of other options too - everything from shouting into the void like I'm doing here in this thread, to throwing molotovs at Nazis: each tool comes with its own risk-to-impact ratio. Voting is low impact, but it's safe and (for most people) accessible. It's the bare minimum.

There's a lot of strawman in this thread against the non-existent argument of voting and only voting. I'm with you on that one: that would be fucking stupid. But that's not what I'm advocating for.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

Bro you've been reduced to yelling "This is what you wanted!!!" at the people telling you none of this was necessary, it's pathetic. Every day liberals prove there is no bottom to how low they will go to drown out their conscience

Well, you got your "pragmatic" genocide and then some. You got your guy in to stop Trump, and he immediately shit the bed. Here we are again. You've learned nothing.