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[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 168 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

Treating your customers decently can lead to profits in the long run. What an insight. They should teach that at business schools.

[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago

The gaming industry is fine. The “wall street gaming industry” is not.

It’s about time these corporate feral hogs start to feel the pain of the free market but they deserve much worse, bankruptcy. Xbox still exists, no leaders were laid off, their parent company still supports genocide, and this is all a problem.

Do you really want your games to pay for 8-10 figures a year for a hollow executive team’s risk free compensation? One where they have 0 liability, $0 of their own money on the line, literally not even gamers, to be the last word on what games make it into our hands and how they wring our wallets dry?

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Best I can do is create shareholder value by making our product shittier and more expensive. Take it or leave it kid

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder what playstation would be like if it had embraced linux rather than fighting it.

[–] cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

don't quote me, I might remember things wrong but, there was a version of PlayStation 2 or 3 that had Linux, freedom spooked Sony Source

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 46 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The key is being consistent and transparent. We got gut punched by the Steam Machine price, but it was an expected and transparent outcome. XBOX and Sony are so volatile that it's making Steam look like a saint. From laying people off, to constant price increases, to the disc situation. Both these companies need to chill tf out.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Add to this MS buying up all of these game studios to do nothing with them and then kill them because they're so inept.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Their actions look like a typical monopoly. Buy competition to destroy it later so you're the only one in business.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Microsoft, monday morning: "how the fuck do we buy Linux?"

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

That is the entire content of the Microsoft's Guide to Business Practices.

One page, one sentence.

Embrace, Extended, Extinguish.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Valve is the only only one supporting Linux!. The rest are greedy fucks.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 39 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

Fuck yeah, love you Valve.

Love your contributions to Linux more though.

[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Gaben-kun will notice you

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 13 hours ago (19 children)

In case anyone’s not clear as to why: Sony has announced that they’ll stop producing discs and that they can take your content at any time for any reason.

Historically, Steam has promised they will never do that and will offer DRM-free (clarification: they’ll remove the Steam DRM) downloads.

Also, all of them have jacked prices up. Xbox, PlayStation, and Steam have raised hardware prices around 35-40%. However, Steam runs on PCs they don’t sell, as well as Macs, and they have a Linux distribution they provide for free called Steam OS.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Steam has promised they will never do that

Can you give us a credible source? I want it to be true, but I don't want my only source to be hearsay.

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If you reach out to Steam support, you'll get a response like this.

(Not my support ticket, this was stolen from Reddit)

But who knows what measures are in place and if that would include all games.

Edit: I'm dumb and misread the convo. My response is about if Steam went away, you would still be able to access your games but the convo is about would Steam remove games from your library.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 18 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I have never seen anyone back that claim up, despite it being a very popular one to make. People like to pretend they own their steam games but until that gets enforced by law; you don't.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

You don't own any software! All software is licensed, yes, even FOSS software. The only software you own in a traditional sense is public domain which not only is a vanishingly small portion of software made, but is also a category that is difficult or impossible for software to be made a part of, depending on the laws in your country.

This is no different for Steam vs. anywhere else you can buy games, even with physical copies. The only benefit of physical copies is that it's much harder to remove access to those games after you purchase the license, unless there is online activation or DRM.

Edit: I should clarify the only other software you own is the software you create or paid to have created. Then you can license its use for others, or not, as you choose. So MS owns Windows, and I own some small number of applications I've created, and other companies or individuals own the software they produced. But none of that has any bearing on games on Steam or anywhere else where you're spending money to get access to a copy of a game.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (5 children)

Tekinukly. Software might still come with a license, but that license has no teeth without some form of DRM. This is a stupid way to try justifying the DRM steam has. In all practicality, you own whats downloaded to your drives without DRM.

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 12 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Valve has not jacked up prices: Their game prices have been consistently among the cheapest and the only reason their hardware is expensive now is because part manufacturers are mostly price gouging (lying about AI being the cause of ALL the increased costs, which isn't true, just like it wasn't entirely true with the bitcoin mining craze).

It's also worth pointing out that Valve has made massive contributions to Linux gaming (and Linux in general), which enables people to game on potato-spec machines and compared to other gaming platforms, they are far better than almost all of them except for GOG.

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[–] mursejoy@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Funny to see articles like this after the wave of steam machine bad press. If you visit console based subreddits there are so many bagging in Steam.

Meanwhile you’ll never own a PlayStation disc again after next year. Great contribution to the industry Sony!

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[–] itrealgood@mander.xyz 20 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

Gosh I wonder if it is to do with the fact that I can (and do) run steam on a €250 second hand pc running mint

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