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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

Stuff we want: protecting kids, having privacy.

Stuff these proposal do: break privacy, don't care about kids (or anyone else for that matter).

Seems pretty simple to me. Again.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 172 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Gotta love when they name it in a way so if you vote against it they can go "why didnt ya vote for it, are you a pedo?"

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago

Some patriot act vibes.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

That's the plan. Attack subject that are traditionally seen as taboo/sensitive/whatever, then extend. CSAM content, porn in general, even random bulletin board with cringey content these days, are used as the entrypoint. You target those, people are wary about defending their rights because of the flagship topic, so laws are changed to put some extra layers of tracking, surveillance, etc.

Step two is claim whatever site/service the current government dislike falls under an imaginary category that allows using these layers of surveillance. And these are extra hard to remove once put in place, because nobody wants to break their surveillance toy.

It's never about the porn, it's never about the kids, it's never about our security when a proposal shows up and talks about breaking encryption, privacy, etc.

Basically any time a bill has a name like this, it does the exact opposite of whatever it says on the title.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is something that directly impacts Lemmy and all Fediverse. Section 230 makes the hosting provider not liable for things their users post as long as they remove offending material (I don’t know the specifics, IANAL). Eroding section 230 is like pulling the ladder up behind the behemoth providers like YouTube. New small time services will essentially be illegal.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

And that's intentional.

So I'm going to say into the air that I was lucky in my selection of mass culture in my childhood.

Star Wars EU before 2010 - everything around us and that feeling of desperation and who can and can't be trusted and the rapid change of the world, "rapid" meaning in the span of 13 years for prequels and then 20 years after them till OT, which is similar to our reality, HP - things about terfs and culture wars are really not important, because its world functions similarly to our surrounding world.

Tolkien and Chesterton and Lewis.

Lots of crazy stuff, Honorverse and Forgotten Realms and small fandoms.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (4 children)

We could also force all people to wear ankle bracelets and be monitored by the government, AI could predict any ongoing or potential future crimes and we will have a crime free society where everyone is safe.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Curtains on windows are actually really unsafe, someone could be abusing a child in there. Locks on doors are unsafe too. Someone could be abusing a child back there.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lots of people have kids nowadays in their houses, we should ban all of that and out them all in a specialized center or something. I can't imagine what all those people are doing with kids behind close doors under he guise of "family". Truly scary if you think about it.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You remind me of Joey from friends when he gets a female roomate.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why bother when u can just put everyone's faces in a facial recognition database and track them that way.

[–] MalReynolds@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or, you know, have them carry ~~surveillance devices~~ phones.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those are dangerous as those can be flashed with secure foss operating systems that allow turning off cell so they can't be easily tracked.

Your custom FOSS rom won’t prevent the very much proprietary modem of your phone from communicating with the celltower.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let me guess another attempt to enforce encryption backdoor?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. At the same time it weakens Section 230 in order to create additional free-speech weakening censorship opportunities.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So what are they giving themselves the right to censor? Or just making it technically possible to do it?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s in the last paragraph of the article. It basically creates an abusive-by-design DMCA-like system that effectively forces services providers to immediately remove anything reported, without cause or investigation (because it’s not feasible, again by design). This will allow conservatives to effectively bully anything they don’t like off the internet… and not just porn. Anything.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I don't think its fair to say just conservatives will abuse such a system anyone and everyone with an agenda to push will.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

they will keep trying stuff like this until they either win or get deposed