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    TranscriptScreenshot of Octopi Package Manager installed on CachyOS (previously the default before being replaced by Shelly). OP has searched for microsoft-edge. No results are returned.

    OP has drawn a circle around a button in the image of an alien head with an arrow pointing to it. Under the arrow is “????”.

    Caption at the bottom of the image reads: “Microsoft edge and google chrome don’t show up in neither of cachyos’ software stores out of the box. On octopi you can make it show up by pressing the weird alien head icon. “Mysteriously” firefox shows up on both stores immediately without clicking any obscure buttons. This is either extremely terrible i design or a deliberate sabotage attempt against microsoft and google from loonix devs, possibly sponsored by mozilla.”

    Context:

    OP is an idiot because these browsers would not be available due to restrictions required by Microsoft and Google to share their software, which is why nothing shows up when searching the installed repositories. Note that Chromium, the base for Edge and Chrome is available on the default repository.

    The alien head icon searches the AUR (Arch User Repository) a place for users to add packages, often mirrored from GitHub, which would show Edge and Chrome as a user has ported it over unofficially. Because the AUR consists of unofficial packages, it is not part of the default repositories, and requires additional confirmation before installation.

    Note that when installing from the AUR, it is always important to read what you are compiling as packages are not checked for malicious code. See recent news regarding compromised packages that weren’t maintained.

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    [–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago
    [–] northernlights@lemmy.today 30 points 5 hours ago

    Dude installs Linux, 1st reflex is to try to install Edge. Dude is completely lost and should get a mac if he's tired of Windows, so it decides everything for him.

    [–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago

    We cannot let Microsoft have a monopoly... on sabotaging Microsoft.

    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

    Average windows user brain

    Would be based if it was true. Fuck Microsoft and make Google watch.

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

    There's a nugget of truth here.

    Linux distros require some understanding of underlying subsystems.

    Windows... in theory, does not. From AverageUser9000's perspective, they can hit the Windows key, type "Google Chrome," and install it, while on linux it's not immediately obvious why it doesn't. You'd have to look up documentation on linux repos, 3rd party repos, containerized stores, and... now you've just lost the interest of 99% of the population.


    I'm not saying AverageUser9000 isn't a moron, but I kind of sympathize too. We are effectively linux experts, and:

    XCKD familiarity

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

    any distro that enables flatpak out of the box will let you install both of these browsers. fedora is one like that. if you are using a KDE based desktop, typing their name in the app launcher will offer to install them (after the flatpak database was downloaded once, that should happen some time after first boot)

    when using a user friendly distro, this does not require much understanding I think. bot of course, without any understanding, there will be issues. like if someone doesn't know the computer is supposed to be shut down before cutting power to it.

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

    Oh I definitely don’t disagree with you. There’s a learning curve to be had. Part of that is just the UX of Linux (and the differing UIs), but I think the other part is straight up education.

    Apple early on adopted the strategy of giving computers to schools to get kids used to using their products, but at some point that shifted over to Microsoft as Office was the business standard. Many kids grew up knowing how to use Microsoft products and got used to using them. Shifting to a different unfamiliar platform is harder once you’re comfortable with something.

    Of course then Google stepped in and started pushing cheap Chromebooks to schools and moving people off physical software and storage to cloud products. Now that is trending towards iPads with just apps continuing the online only software options.

    So now you’ve got a generation of kids who don’t even know how to operate a PC let alone do something as basic as open a file.

    It all comes down to education. If schools adopted Linux and introduced it to kids at an early age, I’m sure they’d be proficient with it.

    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    You're right but I think that's a good thing

    I don't think we really want Linux to be used my everybody. This higher barrier filters out some dummies which which will be only trouble and no benefit to the community. It's called tactical friction or something like this.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    what do you think they should use? something that is requiring online registration, and is uploading their pictures and documents to its creator, against the user's best interest?

    [–] LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub 58 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    Another example of how FOSS contains dark patterns and anti-competitive practices against big tech. Typical. /s

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    I actually find it kind of funny that MSFT does have an official linux release for Edge but not for Office.

    It would seem like they want it to be a Windows only feature as a way to keep people on Windows, but they have a Mac release of it eith the full feature set lol.

    [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    That's for practical reasons.

    Edge is Google Chrome underneath. So a linux release isn't much more dev effort on Microsoft's part.

    But they develop Office, and obviously linux was never a commercial target for it.

    [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 hours ago

    There's also the secondary reason which is they barely give a shit about the local office apps and want you to use 365 and the in browser versions.

    I'm surprised they even offer the office suite local at all anymore.

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

    Well, they want your browsing data for one so that would make sense, but for Office they don’t want businesses hoping to Linux to get away from Windows if the business suite was available there. Since Office is the “industry standard” they just hold it hostage. If Libre Office adoption ever takes off, I’m sure Microsoft will port it over to recoup lost revenue, but that will only happen if they get desperate.

    As for Mac, they may have just broken Office for Mac for a lot of users.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 152 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (8 children)

    possibly sponsored by mozilla

    This is funny as shit

    [–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 55 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Guess we’re already at the point where people make up wild conspiracy theories just to criticize Firefox.

    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 20 points 11 hours ago

    Always have been 🔫

    The kind of bullshit I've seen here on Lemmy alone.

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    [–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 91 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    You'll notice another blatant act of sabotage: LibreOffice is easy to find but Word is nowhere to be found.

    [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    Did you know ?

    OpenOffice is a firewall product !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F011hLZHZrM

    For context it is a french lawmakers casually explaining that OpenOffice has a firewall... And other random bullshit.

    [–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Dultas@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] osanna@lemmy.vg 1 points 49 minutes ago

    LINE GO UP!

    [–] schroedingersKoala@piefed.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

    I feel Microsoft and Google sabotage themselves and shoot themselves repeatedly in their own feet w/o any outside assistance.

    [–] marighost@piefed.social 50 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

    What mental gymnastics does one have to do to come to that conclusion?

    [–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 11 hours ago

    Going to the Microsoft gym for all their life

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    [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 14 points 10 hours ago

    Aliens' heads are smooth and grey, just like OP's brain.

    [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Who'd have thunk Arch would have an Eternal September?

    [–] bless@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

    It's a rolling month

    [–] rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 11 hours ago

    poor wittle megacorporations

    i will continue to assume they're rdrama type noxious dipshits

    [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

    When you believe lies, the truth seems suspicious

    [–] carrylex@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Do you have a link to the source?

    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

    No sorry. It’s somewhere in here. Started looking for it for you, but realized I really don’t want to look through that shithole, by which I mean both the sub and the platform.

    Edit: never mind, found it on DDG. Link

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

    Sadly no, they’re very serious

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