I mean, of course? People who are depressed, anxious, or suicidal are more likely to get sucked into pseudoscientific cure-all cults than people who are healthy and without major problems in life. Telling someone "you'll stop being so depressed/anxious/suicidal if you just stop jacking off" isn't that compelling if they're not depressed/anxious/suicidal.
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I think it’s funny how like 95% of anti fap members somehow conflated porn addiction with masturbating and then somehow conflated that with all sex and become distressed when a girl shows any sort of interest
I am convinced, based upon both cultural observations and the research I've read, that porn addiction isn't real or is very uncommon and most of these people are so traumatized by their Christian Fascist upbringing that they have a pathological terror of their own more or less normal sexuality and sexual function. They're so warped by purity culture and christianity that they've convinced themselves en masse that normal biological functions and behaviors are evidence of something seriously wrong and then come up with some impressively maladaptive behaviors to cope.
Among other evidence is American's centuries long obsessive campaign to stop men from masturbating. If you know about the many, many bizarre psuedoscientific efforts to stop men from masturbating in the history of us christianity the whole nofap/porn addiction industrial complex looks like a natural outgrowth of that trend once it hit the internet's potential for generating insular cults and mass delusion.
Everything the sex-positive people have been saying remains correct
what do they say?
In this case, something like: "masturbation is fine, almost everyone does it, it's also fine if you don't do it because everyone has a different libido, just don't try to force yourself or others into a specific box."
Yeah, we already knew nofap was a hate group.
Yeah but as you can see from the comments here we already have this culture here even as a joke, imo we just have to make sure people don't take volcel it as unironically good and end up on the other side.
I've always taken the volcel stuff here to be more about not letting the forum attract creepers. On reddit any time there's a girl in a pic 80% of the comment section will just be :awooga: shit, which is alienating as fuck.
On reddit any time there’s a girl in a pic 80% of the comment section will just be :awooga: shit
This site is no different, it's just all blush emojis and submissive "jokes" instead.
I’ve always taken the volcel stuff here to be more about not letting the forum attract creepers.
Ideally, it works as that, and by extension as a protection for our ace and sex-repulsed comrades. It's important to foster a site culture where :awooga: is not accepted. But i don't know if everybody is aware of that intention, i've had people LARPing as volcel police when i was simply discussing my sexuality in a decidedly non-horny manner (i was actually talking about how not horny i am, how i fit into the alloace spectrum and how i felt various kinds of non-sexual attraction to people), and i don't think i should be subjected to something like that in a militantly LGBT-inclusive space.
Not to mention that for a lot of people, the volcel bit quickly verges into chastity play and like all forms of BDSM, that doesn't work spontaneously with complete strangers. You can't do kink without establishing consent and rules and boundaries in advance. I'm not saying that to kinkshame, i've had lots of fun with chastity play myself in the past, i'm just saying that it's not something i want to engage in with randos on a leftist shitposting forum. It's as transgressive as sexualizing it when i talk about my tits merely as a gender-affirming part of my transition process, something a lot of people struggle to understand as well.
So yes, the volcel bit is a safegurad against the sexualizing horny culture that's all over the rest of the internet and it's a good thing we're making this effort, but there's both cases were people take it too far, cases where it achieves the opposite and cases were people suddenly forget about it.
i found out about the volcel police just by encountering the memes here and it was immediately obvious that it's there to prevent this place becoming yet another porn aggregator and all around misogynistic shithole.
i love it.
i havent seen any ... ahem... perversion of the meme so far.
like i said, i'm speaking from personal experience on all of these points. That's rare, we're generally on a good track, but some people don't fully get what the volcel bit is about.