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In the past week I've been absolutely roasted for criticising two different countries. Normally I'd be okay with that, I can handle a mild toasting and after all debate is a good thing.

On both occasions though I was flamed for mentioning human rights issues that are established facts and have been known for many, many years. I was critical of the actions/laws of their governments and not the people, their race, religion, general political ideology or nationality.

On both occasions I was bombarded by long posts that parroted propaganda, and in the case of one country I was told (on multiple occasions) that I was ignorant, racist and even fascist for mentioning the issues I did. I'm not complaining about how I was treated, but as a reminder, I was discussing internationally-recognised human rights concerns that can be verified and based in fact.

I could just be paranoid but I'm fairly convinced the responses weren't from patriotic citizens. I think they were paid trolls or bots, and I think their purpose was to quiet negative talking points about the countries that were mentioned.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

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[–] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Boy do I enjoy piefed's bidirectional blocking feature: I don't see their comments, and they don't see mine. We both live in pease (unless they are bots/trolls, then they live in pain muohaha)

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

it's very easy to make many accounts here, it really could be just one motivated troll creating many posts/votes attempting to manipulate opinions.

i still think it's much better than other spaces on the net these days (esp reddit), but you should always keep it in mind.

also, some people from ml/grad do have a certain agenda(?).. lol

[–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

ghost of communism has entered the chat

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[–] Wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

I had this feeling too

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 4 points 3 months ago

Depends on where you are IMO, there's definitely at least a couple tankie instances with a very noticeable problem but there's probably others.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Fediverse should let that propagandist crap live forever, as long as he user still has the right to block/refuse. This avoids censorship and leaves the power in the people's hands. Peace and hope for the future to all!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Mods block can arguments against what the propagandists post though. I'd be fine with this approach if it weren't for that, since it's pretty easy to make propagandists look like idiots. But mods step in to remove opposition to the propaganda.

There is a problem with stochastic terrorism and people being motivated to commit hate crimes because of things they read online. Sure those people will be proven wrong by history, but what about the people getting hurt or killed today?

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[–] BonkTheAnnoyed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My favorite though was when I spelled tanki wrong and left it because it was cute, and they were outraged that I would spell it wrong more so than calling them tanki.

Widdle tanki got a sad sad that someone was mean to poo poo

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah, you must have encountered some tankies. I finally got tired of it and just blocked hexbear and .ml stuff. My lemmy experience is much better without it.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

One of the things I see a lot on Lemmy is people saying it reminds them of the old internet, and it does for me too, but alongside that comes a hefty dose of communism or anarchism, depending on the echo chamber.

Lemmy is a bit communist overall, but not the Marx and Trotsky kind. It's very authoritarian friendly. I am not sure why, but it is a little annoying.

The Holodomor is real, and it wasn't an accident.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

I believe it's because the original software it's built on is created by a group with those views. That's what I've picked up on at least.

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[–] calmblue75@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy does have a propaganda problem, and it is not from the instances you're referring to.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

This year i was sort of flamed 3 times and the 4th had me banned from some lemmy.ml community. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What I did (in my opinion. Can't say what the users interpreted)?
Advocate for equal gender rights
Say that China is bad (and the US)
Some other stuff about China or something which I forgot already
Call out unneccessary racism in a headline instead of just mentioning minorities or just residents that were being harmed by the musk-rat.

Was I right in those discussions? Mostly not or at least not from most angles
Was I 100% in the wrong? I wouldnt say so.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

What I did (in my opinion. Can’t say what the users interpreted)?

Based on the actual modlog, you got banned for saying:

Jesus christ are you all zealots for china. Please get your dick inside back in your trousers If you like the country so much, I hope you are on the way to move there...

Which does indeed seem like trolling

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There's also the folks that try to discourage folks from participating in political change, be it by voting or protest by saying both sides are bad and it doesn't matter what we do.

It's a tellingly consistent message, that first began showing up in the last US presidential election.

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