I read 'Stasi State or Socialist Paradise?: The German Democratic Republic and What Became of It' by Bruni de la Motte, John Green, and Seumas Milne. This book really challenged my western perspective on East Germany and highlighted the complex collapse that occurred. Something that isn't talked about is how many social and workers rights were taken away or reduced when the wall fell. Feminism in particular backslid tremendously as state support for female employment was removed and women as a result faced widespread unemployment.

I guess I just want to point out it wasn't a perfect black and white victory for the west, it was also a calamity that caused depression era style suffering for the people living there. I strongly recommend the book for anyone that enjoys circle jerking the fall of the Wall.

Crosspost this to ml if you're serious about trolling

downvote because political agitation in the shitpost meme community. pls move to politics communities

Probably because there was no communist side^^

I know its a shitpost btw but we are still allowed to react to its content.

It wasn't communist except in name lol

It is important to note that they were going to a very strong welfare state, not so different than the most developed welfare states in Europe today.

So when I hear Americans saying this, I feel that it is important to note that they were not escaping to a American-like society/state, but a well developed liberal social democracy. Universal healthcare being one of many welfare services Americans do not have.

I would probably have done the same thing.

Btw: Not claiming you are American, this is just a pet peeve of mine

Oh, bro, the capitalists did. Bought up everything and scrapped it. One of the reasons the east is where it is today.

If capitalism is so great why did they never made a capitalism 2 ?

Communism as practiced so far sucks, and maybe it can't be done.

Capitalism practiced perfectly sucks for everyone but the filthy rich, eventually. That eventuality happens to be upon us now.

Wait until you find out that the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" isn't a democracy.

Even a conservative thinker argued before that people don't just go to where there are "free stuff", most people still value rule of law and freedom. Only few, if ever, risked their lives crossing the Caribbean to go to America not to Cuba, the latter which has free healthcare. Now that I think about it, African refugees fleeing post-colonial strife did not go to either Eastern Europe or USSR during the Cold war, they went to Europe and North America instead.

Well we're all finding out how well capitalism works I'd say. Dudes have more money than God and are buying up entire western countries and their politicians.

They did, only it was a little later. By then it had emptied out and you could squat, set up a studio, throw raves and such in prime central locations for free.

Way to fail to take context into account.