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[–] BeUnique@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Please no emotions as I am a looksmaxxing robot that only cares about looking great and being confused why women don't like me

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[–] homes@piefed.world 172 points 1 day ago (18 children)

If “alternative medicine” worked, it would just be called “medicine“.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 59 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Im all on the "listen to the medical experts" train.

There are however some medicines and treatments that legitimately started as "alternative".

A lot of it is horseshit though.

Also modern medicine isn't infallible(nor the people that practice it).

Statistically though, it's fucking high magic compared to most internet sourced diagnoses.

[–] Mediocre_Bard_Redeux@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also modern medicine isn’t infallible(nor the people that practice it).

Have friends in the medical field, a lot of time they are just sort of trying shit and then are happy it worked.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Medical science is just that, medicine that follows the scientific method. (Or at least it's supposed to).

The scientific method is basically testing guesses (sometimes educated ones) and seeing what happens.

There's a whole lot of structure and guidelines, but testing guesses(hypotheses) is where it's at mostly.

The current state of any science is usually "the best theory we have right now, given the data and resources available to us"

Some people hear that and think "look, they're just guessing, why should I listen to them?" and thats absolutely valid.

Where that falls down is that they then go on to assume all guesses are equal and ignore the time and resources that went in to that current scientific best guess.

Is it always correct? no, is it more likely to be beneficial than a random social media post by an influencer with no medical expertise? Generally yes.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The people who "guess" are guessing way down the decision tree, not like hmm is this cancer or a flu?

They also are highly trained, in a field that is centuries old.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sort of trying shit and then are happy it worked

Most professions could be described like this, but when doctors are "trying shit" it is backed up by many years of training and education, and their behavior is scrutinised by professional bodies and so on.

When your local quack is "trying shit" it's just based on the vibe.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (21 children)

The difference between medicine and "alternative medicine" is proof of effectiveness. If something provably works it's medicine.

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The quote is from Tim Minchin. I think the track name is Storm.

It's him talking to someone at a dinner party and he's trying to bite his tongue when someone new starts talking stupidity, but it gets to a point where he breaks and goes off on a rent.

It's a very well written and entertaining bit.

What what's missing from the quote is something along the lines of "You know what they call alternate medicine that is proven to work? Medicine"

The whole point of the quote is exactly what you are saying that some medicines legitimately started as alternative medicines

Edit: i realize now it might not have been a quote at all regardless of how similar it is the that Tim Minchin bit

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago

"Herbal medicine's been around for thousands of years!" Indeed it has, and then we tested it all, and the stuff that worked became 'medicine'. And the rest of it is just a nice bowl of soup and some potpourri.

From Dara Ó Briain. Also from him:

Chinese medicine, oh, Chinese medicine! "But there are billions of Chinese, Chinese medicine must be working." Here's the skinny on Chinese medicine. A hundred years ago the average life expectancy in China was 30. The life expectancy in China at the moment is 73. And it's not feckin' tiger penis that turned it around for the Chinese. Didn't do much for the tiger, if you don't mind me pointing out.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The amount of people taking antiworm medicine who support a worm brained health guru is too high.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

RFKjr is not worm brained!

The brain worm died from starvation!

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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 108 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've actually met a lot of people who know a lot about what happened to him. Theres an entire industry and field of academics dedicated solely to it and places of business in pretty much every town across the nation for it.

They're called Doctors.

[–] volore@scribe.disroot.org 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WOAH WOAH WOAH careful with those emotions, buddy, they asked for objective understanding! Don't you know that means rejecting the expertise of the people who spent their entire lives studying the human body and what ails it; and believing unquestioningly the medical advice of the Oompa Loompa rapist pedophile in chief (and his pal with brain worms)?

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 82 points 1 day ago (2 children)

$500 bottle of ivermectin!?!?!

Somehow, that's the worst part of this to me -- somebody got hugely ripped off. I regularly need to buy ivermectin for actual horses, and it's $10-$15 for a horse-sized dose. And this dumb motherfucker spent $500 on a single bottle?

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I know 4 people, who use the horse version. Because they raise cattle they can get it and they use it for themselves. One of them used to help his cancer treatment.

  1. That's 4 to many.

  2. So you actually want to die

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

And these people get to vote....

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 52 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This guy is taking medical advice from conspiracy theorists for COVID. he ODed on dewormer meds and is posting from.the inside of the ambulance

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

See, I'm not a native speaker, so I thought a "wellness company" was something like a hospital.

[–] ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

It's a private company in the "health and wellness" industry. Basically modern day snake oil salesmen that convince vulnerable (or stupid) people that "big pharma" is evil and giving you cancer or whatever, while the mystery pill they're peddling will cure anything that ails you. It typically comes with a hefty price tag, lots of sales pressure, and zero evidence to back it up.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah this is kind of an US insider post.

Edit: I'm having a bad day so I am elaborating: oftentimes they reeeeeally don't consider there's literally a world out there and the internet is connected to that world and some information can be totally confusing because it's so US centric.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Native speakers also confuse this and end up in the backs of ambulances.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Luckily I got warned first ;)

(I cracked a laugh with this, thanks)

[–] Daedskin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

It's purposefully worded that way to be misleading, even to native speakers. Explicitly calling something medicine or a cure means it would have to be tested and regulated. However, labeling something as being for wellness isn't covered by that, and is just vague enough to have people think positively about it. That's not saying that there aren't beneficial things labeled under wellness; roughly speaking though, it's can be used to sell whatever you want, while making people assume it's actively good for them.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Because obviously deworming meds will take care of symptoms that are linked to the lung/throat/breathing area (don't know the medical term for the area)

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

I have a theory sir: you are an idiot!

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Depending on his weight that could be quite a high dose of ivermectin (the normal dose is 0.2mg/kg) but that seems like an extreme reaction.

I see four possibilities:

  • He's very light weight and sensitive to the drug
  • He's having an allergic reaction
  • He actually did have a parasite infection and he's having a Mazzotti reaction.
  • The company that sold it didn't mix the drugs properly before compounding them and overdosed the pills.
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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 22 points 1 day ago

One less voter for magastan I hope

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