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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have no love for discs. It's a dead technology. We should work on software ownership instead.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I like Valve but stfu dude.

Physical discs was the only thing that was a plus side of consoles compared to PC gaming (you could trade and resell it).

This is so clearly a company employee portraying a certain sentiment that the company stands to profit from and acting like that is what consumers chose.

Sony, chose this. I didn't chose this. And valve knows that now 30- 40% or better of PlayStation players will be making their way over to them in the next 5 years with this very sentiment of "oh well its what consumers chose"

I know it wasn't the company of valve that said this and just an employee but still fuck this dudes opinion on the topic. Of course he shills for the end of discs that was the only thing that set consoles apart from Steam.

[–] Paulemeister@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. The main selling point of a console is not the physical media. There are consoles out there that do not even have that feature. It's the convenience of buying a console once and then knowing everything will run fine. No tinkering, just start it up with your controller and game.

People have fast Internet connections nowadays and can just buy it online and download. You probably have patches to download anyway. It might be even more convenient because you don't have to go to the store or insert the disk to play. I don't think people are sharing games that much anymore.

I think the average guy does not care. There might be some complaints at first like with the iPhone dropping the headphone jack, but then people are just gonna be fine with it. Consoles are not going anywhere. They are the iPhones of gaming, small selection but great optimization for that specific hardware.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Hey guess what. Companies retain less popular options all the time because it makes them more attractive as businesses.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that GOG exists and has a backlog of great games that can keep you entertained for ages. If you want to put your money where your mouth us, I suggest putting it there.

Buying the hot new thing no questions asked is how we get more of the Sonys of the world.

I agree physical games are dead, but I'm sure as shit not buying digital from anyone with a history of plucking purchased shit out of people's libraries.

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Honestly, in my lifetime I've bought maybe 7 physical games, and that was the Myst series.

I was too poor when I was a kid so pirated, now I use Steam, and if that goes to shit, I'll be sailing the seas again, just like with streaming.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate it as much as the next person here, but it was always inevitable. It was never a question of if, but when.

I know a lot of people look at physical media from a preservation angle, but in an era where games have a long tail of post-release updates and DLC, I'm not so sure they even serve that purpose anymore. If I want to replay my old games in 50 years, in many cases I probably don't just want to play the 1.0 that's on the disc. If I'm still dependent on the availability of a third-party download server to get the remaining data, do discs even still matter all that much?

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

physical media from a preservation angle... If I want to replay my old games in 50 years

And don't forget bitrot. The modern bluerays are scarecrow and wind chime material in like 2-3 decades after manufacturing.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’ve been downvoted en masse for saying that physical media doesn’t last forever, and that many of my PS1/2/3 physical copies no longer work due to labels peeling off and disc rot. It doesn’t happen apparently.

Physical media isn’t what people should want - it’s emulation. Physical media only works as long as there’s original hardware to play it on, and it’s getting harder and harder to get working original hardware.

I don’t care about playing the game on original hardware, I care about being able to play it on readily and easily available hardware.

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[–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Chet Falisek has been on a crusade to have bad contrarian takes since he left Valve. His stance on Stop Killing Games was downright stupid.

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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Last time I bought a disc it had just a downloader on it

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 15 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"We constantly say voting with your wallet will make it so businesses will only create what you're willing to buy. ... Gaming is in the state it's in currently because the vast majority of gamers are okay with it? Have the wallets already voted?"

In this sense, Chet is right, the 'democracy' of consumers has prevailed, and the people have spoken. They said 'digital.' I myself have been a PC gamer for over a decade now and I can't remember the last time I bought physical media.

"You as the consumer have forced the large corporations hand, and you've told them 'Stop with retail.'"

But then Chet shows his entire rancid asshole by actively ignoring the power dynamics between corporation and customer. The corporation always has the upper hand because the customer CAN ONLY buy what the corporation is OFFERING to sell. The corporation is always, at all times, presenting the customer with a false choice. A customer who has shitty internet and has to purchase all physical media, they may be in the democratic minority but that doesn't mean we feed them to the wolves. But an ex-Valve writer wouldn't know shit about that, they haven't shipped a physical game since Portal 2. What choice did you give consumers for Counterstrike, 2023? Half Life Alyx, 2020? Dota, 2013?

Once you, apparently, regretted your decision to invest almost entirely in digital, you didn't start buying Crimson Desert discs while you could, nor did you abstain from making digital purchases altogether. Now it's too late, says Faliszek.

Suck my dick, clown.

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's not an argument to take the same choice away from future customers.

We made the choice for mostly digital in a world where physical was still available as a fallback. That's not the same situation as if it wasn't. The existence of physical media and a resale market does prevent some of the worst fuckeries of an otherwise monopoly, regardless if you ever bought or sold used games.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Also Valve is a very different animal to Sony.

Steam has removed (not delisted from the store, removed from the libraries of people that owned the game) less than 40 games since inception. Excluding F2P games, Valve has mostly refunded people where a game is outright removed.

Sony has closed 4 music stores in the same period, with no recourse for purchases. They've removed tens of thousands of movies from PlayStation accounts over the same period, these were 'purchased' and then just removed for licensing reasons.

Valve has a level of trust they earned and why Digital only isn't as much of a problem there, now. It was during the opening years becuase Valve had not earned that trust yet.

Sony has burned people so many times I just consider them not trustworthy in general. any 'purchase' on any Sony service is just a 2-3 year lease imo.

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