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[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate Nintendo too. But they are not wrong in this case. Unstable politically motivated trade conditions raise prices.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

except it was not nintendo that paid the tariffs, it was the customer, and they profit based on percentage of cost, so the customers paid them more, and then they complained to get payed again for having to profit more, which is paid for with tax dollars,

so basically you paid for the privilege of paying them more.

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

But nintendo didnt vote for the tarrifs either. The American taxpayers did, and thus, they got what they voted for. Or in reality, they got what they were too lazy to vote agaisnt since over 1/3 of the population didnt bother.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck corporate greed. My library rents switch games and for every three games I rent, only one is something I might pay for (but don't have to). Who wants to spend 90 plus dollars just to take a chance on a game you might play for 10 minutes and decide you don't like it?

Hence why we should be fighting for rights with digital goods. eBooks can be checked out at the library, albeit not without multiple fights to get something relatively fair, and there's no good reason why this can't be implemented for all other digital goods, other than like you said, corporate greed.

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well the only reason why I didn’t get switch 2 because that’s the very first Nintendo console that you can’t pirate. And I really don’t mind.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

This is exactly what people said about every single Nintendo console when it launched. Give it another year or two. Maybe the Switch 2 OLED will have launched by then.

[–] goombakid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I got one simply because it's usually the launch model/first iteration of Nintendo's consoles that get hacked first. As soon as it does...

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Not with that attitude. It'll be figured out.

Intentionally buying only ones that are pirateable seems a little backwards.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 122 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nintendo is not your friend. It has no interest in passing any of its potential savings onto you, and the only reason it’s ever interested in your bank account is when it’s thinking about how much money it can get out of it.

Some (too many) people fail to understand this extremely basic concept.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's honestly very sad to see people defend these gaming corporations blindly, yes, including Steam, when they're doing anti-consumer things.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They're doing also lots of pro consumer things

Whereas, I'd argue Nintendo is almost entirely anti consumer. They didn't even fix their joycons and recall them

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'll take the bait... What anti-consumer stuff is Valve doing?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sure, here are my small list personal list of gripes, mostly minor except the first one.

  • Their continued stance on loot boxes and enabling of gambling.
  • They did try to do a paid mod system back in the day and got shutdown by gamers pretty quick.
  • Their initial discontinuation of batteries and LCD screens for their steam deck after only four years.
  • Their continued stance that they are selling revokable, non-transferable licenses and not games that you own.

Steam's a great company and overall very pro-consumer company in my opinion, more so than most of the other companies in the PC gaming realm but I'll criticize Steam when I see something I believe is anti-consumer regardless of my like for them because end of they day they're still just a corporation that prioritizes profits over people and it's just one death away from being enshitified like the rest of them.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Let's not forget they've been emulating amazons efforts to drive prices up across the market

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That have zero choice on the licensing at least for games they dont publish.

On the other hand they have kept installers for me long after the publisher has pulled their product.

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[–] MBech@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago

Don't forget that the current refund system wasn't born out of the benevolence of Valve. It all came from external pressure, mainly from Australia and somewhat EU. Steam never wanted you to be able to refund a game that doesn't work, they were forced to. And even now they're trying to hide the ability to refund games as much as possible.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their cartel like price fixing policies raise prices across all sales platforms, regardless if they deal with steam codes or not.

Also the child gambling.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

The price parity is the big one for me. They have almost total market control, and they use this to prevent competition. We all know no other marketplace can compete on utility, because Steam has a massive head start. Their other option is to compete on price, and Valve has forced this to not be allowed. Somehow some people still defend them for this.

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[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.

(that's a royal you btw, not calling out you specifically)

[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

I think it is more that whether benevolent or malevolent there are more decisions that align with what PC gamers want compared to other gaming companies.

Like push for Linux and trying to make it more accessible to the average user. Compared to where Linux was when the first Steam Machine came out and how much more user friendly it became after the Steam Deck is one area. Still lot of work to do, but leaving Microsoft behind isn't as daunting as it used to be for gamers.

With other consoles the stands outs are more the exclusives.

But, there are more clashing of ideas like paid online, requiring locked down hardware, and inability to install whatever you want on consoles. Console ecosystem has been much more confrontational just because of being a closed ecosystem for those that want a more open one.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is true of all companies in a capitalist society. People love to shit on Nintendo but Sony, Microsoft, Valve, yes even your previous Gabe is not your friend.

There's a difference between publicly-traded and privately-owned companies. I'm not saying that large corporations are your friend, but it's rather disingenuous to categorize all of them with the same black & white stance.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but some at least have some consumer friendly policies while they're squeezing you dry.

Not saying you should cozy up to suck them off or anything, but throwing everything in a single bucket labeled "bad" is big smooth brain moves.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 93 points 2 days ago (24 children)

“The common thread among Plaintiffs’ claims is that it is somehow ‘unfair'; that Nintendo has not retroactively adjusted its prices for completed sales in response to the outcome of the tariff litigation,” Nintendo’s statement continues, adding that this is “not how commercial transactions work.”

Then why the fuck would Nintendo themselves get a refund?

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[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a canuck, pretty based of Nintendo lol elect a better president next time, yanks.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But everyone else paid the same price as well (except for Japan).

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

US fucking the rest of us over, what else is new

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Joke's on them. I stopped buying their products in 1998 when I got my first PC.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll toss it onto the massive pile of reasons I don't buy Nintendo shit.

And to head off any smug assholes who think they found a gotcha, no I don't buy from microsoft sony or valve either.

Sail the high seas or get shafted every time.

Buy consoles secondhand.

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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

As if anyone needed more reasons to stop giving Nintendo any money. The Switch2 is hardly an improvement, the games library sucks for the value (that never decreases), their online features are still stunted in the 2000's era, and shocking no one, their company culture towards customers is "fuck you".

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