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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago
[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

skill issue, i've managed to avoid being harmed in the iran war by simply not fighting iran

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

lets bump those numbers up

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

...all the more reason not to trust the fatality figures that the US has released, IMO.

I am only going off skepticism of the Trump administration, coupled with the casualty/fatality ratios of other recent conflicts.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's weird that I'd blame the US govmt for doing this, instead of the Iranians.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

The more unvarnished US history you learn, the less weird it seems.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the aggressor bears responsibility for all that ensues from their aggressive criminal acts. This is true in civil law, and also in a illegal war of aggression like this. The Nazis were hanged for this.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But, I feel like I should feel mad. But it's not there for iran.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The US’ usual propaganda tricks—which worked so well for so many decades—has collapsed in the face of a live streaming Palestinian genocide. People aren’t buying the bullshit anymore. They’re not buying what imperial shills like Masih Alinejad are selling.


Edit to add: War on Gaza: How pro-Israel Iranian Americans are silencing Palestine supporters

The pro-Israel segments of the Iranian-American community include prominent activists such as Masih Alinejad, who said in 2021 that she would “love to visit Israel”. Since the 7 October attacks, she has called on Washington to designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terror group for Tehran’s support of Hamas.

However, several activists who spoke to Middle East Eye said that these individuals are just a small minority of the larger Iranian-American community.

They say the reason that it appears that most Iranians in the diaspora are pro-Israel is because most of the ones who do support Palestine are afraid to speak up.

"The vocal presence of Iranian Zionists online and at rallies might create a misleading perception. In reality, many Iranians are afraid to speak out and do not align with this viewpoint," said one Iranian activist who spoke to [Middle East Eye] on condition of anonymity.

"The loudness on social media doesn't accurately represent the broader sentiment."

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

60% of americans are still buying it and i suspect that the combination of the upcoming age verification laws and doubling down on complete media capture will reverse the tide since social media is the only viable outlet for contradictory narratives in the united states.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know, this war is very abnormal culturally. in this case I think it is because the USA openly went looking for violence without even trying to give a real casus belli. Usually they don't skip that part and the government and media does a thorough job of fabricating a palatable justification that most people can swallow. Freedom or WMDs or whatever, you know if you live in a Western nation, something to give some sort of higher meaning to slaughter and destruction.

they didn't even bother this time, not really. It's in someway even more insulting than being lied to and shows the growing weakness of democracy in the world that so many governments now have this attitude of "it doesn't matter what you think, because its happening and you can't do anything about it"

and well, if it doesn't matter what we think, why should we care at all? But all the compliancy cuts both ways. soldiers dying, innocents dying, bombs dropping, it all just fades into the background until it's right in our faces. The world has become more violent and we're used to it, it doesn't bode well.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

soft fascism has become baked into western society and it acceptance for casual brutality from the authorities.