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[–] folekaule@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago

I write plain text. I just happen to format it like markdown.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Markdown...is...plaintext, though?

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every programming language is plain text.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not intended to be easily human-readable though.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure they are. They're intended to be as easy to read for a human as possible.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No. The primary purpose of programming languages is to be machine-readable first, human-readable second. The primary purpose of both markdown and plaintext is to be equally readable by both humans and machines.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Assembly, perhaps. But not every other language. Every other language's sole purpose is to be easier than assembly to read by humans, so it can be compiled or translated through an engine into something a machine can read.

Machines do not read Rust. Machines do not read C++. Machines do not read JavaScript. Humans do.

[–] r1ck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

Markdown is text that can kick flip

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

My only objection to that is that its source code isn't easily human-readable, like Markdown's is. The point of an .md file is that a human and a computer can both parse it just as easily as a native format.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Markdown would be better if everyone using it used the same markdown. I swear no two places use it the same.

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We could have had that, but when some people who might have succeeded tried to establish a proper standard for Markdown in 2014 the original inventor threw a tantrum so they backed down and it never went anywhere.

https://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common-markdown/

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This upsets me.

[–] r1ck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

true though

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LaTeX has entered the chat

[–] r1ck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, he already embed into all scientific paper.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

A quality text file is a bit of a lost art these days. I like looking through this archive of old text files from the 80s and 90s once in a while. http://textfiles.com/directory.html

[–] stepan@lemmy.cafe 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

you will change you mind yourself when your - key breaks from all the

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[–] andyburke@fedia.io 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wouldn't dare try to understand the mind that thinks that Markdown is at all like html. 🤷‍♂️

[–] bricktror@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Isn't markdown a strict superset of html though? As in any valid html is valid markdown. Not usually how it is used though and im not sure about how most markdown flavours handle it, but it is a "convenient" escape hatch

https://www.markdownlang.com/advanced/html.html

[–] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

I mean, Markdown was specifically designed to be convertable to HTML. So, it is structurally rather similar. It's basically just a bunch of aliases for a subset of HTML tags.

Having said that, it is also designed to be plain text. You don't have to convert it, and even when you do convert it, there's a good chance that what you've written in plain text will look fine in converted Markdown as well.
For the purposes of this meme, I would certainly group it with plain text.

[–] r1ck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They are both at the end of the day UTF-8 text.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

All we are is bytes in the wind

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago
[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Behold the holy Grail of text structuring and formatting (as long as you don't want to deal with LaTeX): orgmode

[–] zitrone@europe.pub 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I need to get into Typst. Been hearing about it a lot for a good while.

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I checked Typst out a bit. It couldn't do a specific, niche thing I want to do but in general it felt really nice. Definitely feels newer than LaTeX and with less technical debt/baggage. A bit more limited but still nice

And for some reason it seems there's no community for Typst on Threadiverse

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for sharing! I haven't even looked at it yet — I imagine it's like a supercharged Markdown, with ways to interlink documents and that kind of jazz? Am I way off?

[–] INeedMana@piefed.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd rather say it's a cross between the two. Because most of the text is written like MD but then it does have document settings and tables look like in LaTeX

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Looks beautiful, wow. Very simple. I so wish I had this through my uni days. LaTeX was pretty powerful but it was pretty painful sometimes as well.

[–] sqauffle@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 days ago

The orgmode site doesn't display properly on my phone. I can't even scroll horizontally to read the text. 😂

[–] decolo@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

emacs heretic! begone from this place!

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is absolutely worth it learning it.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

how do i use emacs without vim emulation

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

If you want your vim keybindings inside emacs you can use evil mode

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[–] Una@europe.pub 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Graphite pencil and paper is God

[–] decolo@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

pointy stick and dirt clearing or gtfo

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[–] dsilverz@catodon.rocks 3 points 3 days ago

(Trivia: the Assembly code I made for the last panel does work)

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![The "brain levels" meme.

First level (small brain): purposefully incorrect HTML (mismatching paragraph and heading tags), Markdown (incorrect hyperlink markup) and a LaTeX error "Extra close brace of missing open brace".

Second level (middle-sized brain): nod at the (g)old Windows XP Notepad easter egg in which the phrase "Bush hid the facts" gets converted into UTF-16 mojibake. Then the words "resumé, naiveté, cliché" incorrectly encoded as ISO-8859-2 and viewed as UTF-8 which results in the "invalid character" question mark.

Third panel (big illuminated brain): a screenshot of objdump showing a functional GNU Assembly code in which the string "Hello world is my 455" is printed to the STDOUT without relying on .data/.bss sections nor relying on labeled addresses, solely by JMPing past the ASCII string the exact amount (22 bytes), right into the instructions for preparing a sys_write syscall for said ASCII string.](https://hel1.your-objectstorage.com/catodon/dee5ced4-a84b-4084-a986-e386194b2bc3.webp)

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're almost the same thing, so this kinda' hits like two people arguing over which shitbox $300 car they drive is faster...

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[–] omniman@anarchist.nexus 4 points 3 days ago

Ngl plain txt is the best . But not for writing blog . Need something like # for headings and stuff . To make my blog portable i don't use mardow much just # for heading and # for tag

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Markdown is so annoying. I wanted to record a command in Joplin and had the audacity to make it bold to highlight something. Pasted it into their terminal and it put a bunch of asterisks in. Thanks.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Try pasting commands into code blocks.

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