You know I'm okay with Windows running updates I shut down or anything else like that. It's incredibly annoying when people don't run updates and then wonder why their system gets fucked up. It's just like on Linux when people just absolutely refuse to acknowledge the fact that they need to run updates. And many times I need to run the updates manually through the command line. There are quite a few gooey applications and things like that that will allow you to run updates but many times you still have to run them manually. And then something breaks and people wonder why I broke when they didn't run any updates. So in the end really who gives a fuck if it's running updates on shutdown you hit the button says run updates you tell it to run updates and you either close the lid on your laptop and walk away or you carry it till it shuts down within a few minutes and then you shut it down. Or you just let your desktop run until it's done. It's really not that big of a deal that people here seem to make it out to be and seem to make 10 different memes a day about the shutdown process on whatever OS they want to shut down.
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Systemctl? Bro just poweroff
I was always particularly fond of windows turning my laptop on, running updates, and then going into hibernation, which then caused a blue screen trying to come out of it.
The laptop had sleep and hibernation disabled, all of the wake-on-events and automatic updates were disabled as well. (It was an older cranky thing and deserved rest - or to be taken out back and shot.)
Yet, somehow it always turned on for update day, even after I blocked it from the internet via the router.
Windows update set my PC back almost 3 years for some unknown reason, lost so much shit. That was my final fuck it this shit moment, I installed Mint last week. A little bit of a learning curve, but I'm enjoying it and not worried about everything getting ruined unless I do something dumb. I can live with my own stupid.
script on desktop; shutdown -h now, or hit button
Is there a "How to Linux" somewhere? I'd really like to get beyond using my CachyOS system as gui user, hell even some of the gui stuff is so alien. Felt like a lesser god when I found the repo... But terminal commands are just beyond me
Nothing wrong with GUI but yeah there are a lot of resources. I don't know if I can point you to any because I usually just web search the command for the thing I want to do and add it to a long running note of Linux commands
This helped me quite a lot. You don't have to use arcolinux either, it's simply a guide.
https://www.arcolinux.info/learning-path/
edit i haven't used that link in awhile and i'm not sure it's the same experience anymore, some things appear to be missing. if unsure about any step, you can skip it usually. it's more of a list of things to learn.
No starch press has many such books.
"How Linux Works", "The Linux Command Line" is the one I've (partially) read.
There's also Linux From Scratch or maybe just try Arch without the install script if you have spare ssd to boot.
I've found that just selhosting shit will hit some inevitable roadblock, so it tend to end up making you read a whole bunch of documentation and at many points you will encounter new incantations which you also need the docs if you curious enough
I usually map the power button to shut down, although on laptop if I close the screen after shutdown it'll go to sleep mid shutdown
meanwhile on KDE: A stop job is running
This boils down to a Linux using a file system which allows files to be deleted or replaced in the inode table while something has the old file open. So it's easier (although not simple) to replace packages while other stuff is running. Whereas Windows has to shut everything else down so nothing has the file open to replace it and also fix stragglers during the next reboot.
its more to do with the fact that until recently linux distros did not have a desktop pc centered idea on how to do updates. but distros started to support offline updates, so you can install updates in a safer way, while the system is not running.
a major difference is that linux offline updates allows you to just shut down, without taking time with updates.
Poor storage drives adding on power cycles
This might sound crazy, but you don't have to shutdown your computer every time you're done using it. You can just lock the screen and walk away.
Windows 10 has had a bug for about 3 years now. Where if you choose "install update and shutdown" and instead it reboots.
Windows 11. We installed a printer driver and unchecked "Restart my computer now". It attempted to restart anyway, with Windows offering to either close all programs and restart, or cancel. I clicked cancel. It restarted anyway. Nothing was lost, but still... π€¦
Windows + R cmd [enter] Shutdown -r -s -t 0 [enter]
It's amazing that my pc is set to shut down when I press power button.
Not even "press and hold for a sec." No I just press the power and by the time I lift my finger it's already shutting down.
Well, there's a reason why I shut down my Windows laptop at least 30 minutes before I have to actually leave somewhere.
My biggest annoyance isn't even Windows as such, but random applications that have auto-updaters that run when the app is closed. "Okay, time to go now." "NO! I must update this app!! Do not stop this update or hideously evil data corruption will happen!!!" ...there's no excuse for this stuff. Just do it when starting the application.
Systemd waiting for to terminate on shutdown is one of the reasons i've ditched it.