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Are you prepared for the day the #internet splits?

On the clearnet you will be

  1. Unable to watch porn.

  2. Required to give your real name and ID in order to use social media.

  3. Arrested for "mean tweets", "anti-government views", "liking subversive memes", etc

  4. Only be allowed to use approved applications from Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc

On #Tor and #I2P you can still be free.

What you can do to prepare

  1. Set your downlink speed to 10-15mbps to acclimatize yourself

  2. Encourage app developers to host their applications on Onion and Eepsite domains. (Git repos, fdroid repos, linux distro repos, etc)

  3. Run all applications that support SOCKS5 over the Tor SOCKS port (9050) (#Fdroid, #Signal, #SimpleX, #AntennaPod, etc)

  4. Use bookmarks or password manager notes to have the URLs of your commonly used programs, services, and repos (#Monero, #XMRBazaar, #Pitch, #Dread, etc.)

  5. Get used to text messages instead of audio or video calls. (Audio and video use UDP and generally give your real IP to either a central STUN server or the other peer. (it may be possible to force audio and video calls over TCP exclusively, but the latency would be high and therefore make the call unenjoyable.)

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[–] nyakojiru@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

guys vpns are made not for normal usage, even more that the normal usage implies using normal services . they are made for tor outbound and is very useful for selfhosting wen example your isp like many has trackers blocked . like that one the use case are a lot.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

3 I know very little about Tor, although I am running a bridge to help out people in Iran and China. Is configuring individual apps to use the Tor SOCKS port the same as if I do it on my router (so that everything in my home network goes through Tor)?

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you have it set up on your router so that everything goes through the network, then you don't need to do anything on your individual devices unless it's going to be on your phone, which would be off of your Wi-Fi network sometimes and on cellular.

In that scenario, you'll want an application to act as a local VPN tunnel such as the Tor VPN app or Invizible (fdroid)

[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fascists set up clearnet rules like that.

The problem with everyone being identified is that fascists will also out themselves because they don't find hate speech punishable online. However, they will find that it is fully punishable in the real world where their real fleshy bodies are doxxed by default.

There are WAY more anti-fascists than there are fascists offline.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Ask the Chinese.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that Tor is primarily a way to access the clearnet while darkweb access was added as an afterthought. I don't see Tor solving the problem of I.D. verification on social media, for example.

I2p was designed as a completely separate network. Haven't used it myself but this seems the way to go for most day to day activity.

Unable to watch porn.

Torrent the porn. I've seen plenty on offer at TPB.

Required to give your real name and ID in order to use social media.

Arrested for “mean tweets”, “anti-government views”, “liking subversive memes”, etc

Have your own domain from https://njal.la/ bought with Monero and create a single user instance for Lemmy or Mastodon should allow you to remain anonymous and avoid being arrested.

Only be allowed to use approved applications from Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc

Will Tor and I2P be approved by Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc? There will always be FOSS and there will always be a way to install alternative OSs on computers.

Set your downlink speed to 10-15mbps to acclimatize yourself

I've heard I2P is fairly quick, torrenting is encouraged.

Use bookmarks or password manager notes to have the URLs of your commonly used programs, services, and repos (#Monero, #XMRBazaar, #Pitch, #Dread, etc.)

Been doing so for years. You might have a hard time finding someone in the privacy community that doesn't do this.

Get used to text messages instead of audio or video calls. (Audio and video use UDP and generally give your real IP to either a central STUN server or the other peer. (it may be possible to force audio and video calls over TCP exclusively, but the latency would be high and therefore make the call unenjoyable.)

Messaging via Signal is my go to. Rarely do I even have my voip app active.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t see Tor solving the problem of I.D. verification on social media, for example.

It does by disguising the location you're accessing the website from, which may or may not have such laws.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A VPN does that as well without the issue of being blocked very often.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A VPN doesn't build a chain of nodes and doesn't rotate them.

The VPN provider knows your real IP. Tor exit node doesn't.

Doesn't matter how anonymous one is if the website blocks Tor traffic.

Nymvpn runs traffic through 2 or 5 nodes, depending on user setting. These nodes are not owned by Nym.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

True, that usually costs money though, while Tor is free.

Sure Tor is free. Compared to what I pay for electricity and ISP, a vpn is very low cost.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Checkout SplinterCon if you think about this seriously.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Buddy, I'm ready for the day the internet finally turns Chinese.

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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah if porn is at the top of the list, you have a problem.

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