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idk it's my first time (kind of) trying to do dataviz, I thought the original post was super interesting but like other comments said, it was hard to read.

I think in a way it's mostly because defederation is complex to show as links, since it is the break of said link, but hopefully this type of graph is better ?

you do lose the "group" of instances view, though (and also I did not bother with per instance MAU as raw number + percentage, or sofware used)

let me know what you think!

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

Cool diagram.

If you removed hexbear and lemmygrad (nearly everyone defederates them so they just clutter the place up) then the other information would be clearer. For example I didn't notice that beehaw has defederated both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works until my third viewing.

[–] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I love how almost everybody defederates with Lemmygrade lmao

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's prettier but harder to glean information from.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I find it mildly interesting that there's no inverse of lemmygrad, that defederates from everybody else

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Defederation is often seen as a last resort and generally seen pretty negatively. Defederating everyone would also get rid of most content

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah but this graph would have so much more data >:)

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago

Not according to this graph

[–] catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Some instances use allowlist meaning other servers are defederated unless added to the list. Hexbear is the only major instance that uses this model, to my knowledge.

[–] quill7513@anarchist.nexus 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

One point of order, you lost slrpnk.net's defederation of hexbear.net

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ah my bad I gotta redo it now

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's very pretty and a worthwhile attempt, but personally I think it's rather unreadable lol. All you need is four circles for the four major groups that defederate.

[–] Inkstainthebat@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Blahaj federated lemmynsfw? Interesting

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

nifty strongly curved arrows

I should sort my ties this way…

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Lot of unnecessary lines crossing. Why do the 5 at the top left not just swoop around instead of crossing 2 or 3 others? Why do the two defederating lemmy.world cross each other?

3 yellows and two slightly orange and slightly green yellows are hard to differentiate at times.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've updated my spreadsheet with data of everything with at least 50 MAU (60 instances); pretty much have my updated defederation graph done in terms of instance placement (shared it on Matrix for feedback), just need to add more statistics to it.

Adding more instances of course increases the complexity, so while I made adjustments to hopefully make the boxes easier to differentiate, any graph at scale will be somewhat confusing without animation that allows the end user to focus on one instance at a time.

Your visualization definitely adds a degree of clarity to things, so maybe I'll spend more time working on my design too.

[–] yoru77@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When I saw it I thought of this quote: "Why Is It When Something Happens, It's Always You three?" Tbh I didn't know about 2 of 3 Top 3 defederated instances, I know why feddit is defederated, but why is lemmygrad?

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

lemmygrad is pro authoritarian

[–] yoru77@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Oh.... I understand now why it's banned, thanks!

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[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Very cool, bien joué ha ha

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