No Stupid Questions

most countries have given up on climate change, with all the propaganda that the oil/gas pushed helped too. deforestation is a big problem in tropical areas, where the biodiversity is very high, and not because of the "charismatic megafauna" , theres a group of types plants that are extremely susceptible as they usually only found in one or few locations(mycohetereotrophs) and are easily extirpated or extinct, if you even disturb that small area of the forest.(see americas own Thismia species, people have been trying to find this rare plant for 100+years). there is a related on in japan, that was though to have been extinct for 30 years only to be rediscovered.

I would say the left and the right need to reach common ground on the issue - but like someone else said: "when the bread runs out"

The problem is that we still want to live through it.

In our imaginations it's everyone rising up against tyranny and oligarchy and demanding a better world. It's us seeing the change happen and getting to that better world. We want the world to be better because we want better. We want a fair chance to own a nice home and live a decent life without constant worry. We want to be able to afford basic health care. To not be forced to pay thousands of dollars for 'health insurance' and then still be hit with hundreds of thousands in bills if we actually have a serious medical issue. To be able to go to a hospital for one night to give birth to a child without ending up $10k in debt for doing it. We want to know that justice exists and the people in power aren't raping and murdering kids and then laughing when we demand justice. That they aren't throwing poor people who can't afford to defend themselves in for-profit prisons for crimes they didn't commit so they can be used for slave labor.

We want to live, and to have life be something we enjoy and love instead of endless struggle and stress. We want to see the change happen, to experience how amazing and different things can be.

We want to live through it.

Most of us aren't willing to die for it. To walk away from every thing you have, right now. Every belonging, every relationship. To stand up and walk away from all of it expecting to never see any of it again. Expecting to die. But willing to do that to make the world a better place for other people. For your children, or their children.

It's common to hear people saying they don't have or want kids because of the state of things we all hate so much. Making the world a better place for your children is one of the biggest reasons people are motivated to give up their own lives to force a rotten system to change.

We want deaths like Alex Pretti and Renee Good suffered to stop. We don't want to be the next people at the wrong end of the gun.

Revolutions aren't without cost. Usually very high cost. It takes a lot of people being willing to die, expecting to die, planning to die, and deciding that it's worth it just for the chance to make things better for the future.

No revolution ever fixes everything. There are still problems and injustices and wrongs after every one of them. There is no guarantee that you standing up and walking out of your entire life, to go fight the system and die, will change anything at all. It might not work. Enough other people might not stand up for it to make even a tiny difference. Even if enough people do, it might not end up in a very big difference in the end. There's a chance that it could cause big changes. That a lot of the worst parts of today would actually improve. But that's only a chance, while there's a complete guarantee that it would never lead to some idyllic utopia where everything is all batter.

You will almost definitely die. You won't even know if it makes any difference in the end. All you'll have is that hope that maybe it will, and maybe things will really be better for future generations.

Are you actually ready? Are you standing up, moncharleskey? It's easy to type. It's not easy to do. The answer to what you're waiting for it simple. You're waiting for you to decide that the mere chance, the hope, that in rising up and almost certainly dying for it you will manage to make a difference and make the world a better place is worth walking away from your entire life and expecting to die.

Until you hit that point inside, until you're willing to stand up on the spot and give away your own life, you will keep sitting.

You want to riot to fix climate change? Ok, let's say you will get everyone to riot, abolish the government and kill the elites. What will you do next to solve climate change?

Ban* cars? People will be against it. Ban beef? People will be against it. Ban air travel? You guessed it, people will be against it. Majority of people support measures that they think will not affect them like carbon taxes and renewable energy but if you look at actual, consumer level changes you will see a big drop. Only 34% of drivers support ban on ICE cars.

Look how much people bitch about paper straws. You think they will agree to actually limiting CO2 emissions by using less energy, traveling less, eating less meat and buying less useless stuff? The problem are not just the the elites and the billionaires. WE are the problem.

10% richest people account for half of the emissions. To be in the top 10% you have to make over $30k a year. To stop climate change pretty much everyone on lemmy would have to agree to big sacrifices. Are you ready to significantly lower your quality of life or you just want to riot because you think it will help you save it?

*By ban I mean limit by making more expensive.