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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 223 points 1 week ago (4 children)

awesome, then we can remove all the ads, no? because bots don't purchase things, no?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Last year, you’d be correct. This year, bots DO purchase things. They also download and run things. Some marketers have gotten wise and have adjusted SEO and general product advertising to appeal to bots.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (11 children)
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

It's complicated.

In short, yes.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 99 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. – Some Hoopy Frood

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has anyone tried moving around little green bits of paper? Or no because on the whole it isn't the little green bits of paper that are unhappy?

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[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Once upon a time, a bunch of primates came down from the trees and now we have unstoppable climate change.

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[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

We let people become rich without eating them when they did bad things.

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[–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't particularly think it's a better change, but CloudFlare is thinking of other options, and with how widespread their use is, if they start doing it, so will everyone else:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/monetization-gateway/

[–] relativelyrobin@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

That is a really good idea. I’m not gonna lie. I would love it if I could put like five bucks in a wallet and then it just takes a cent or two when I go to some article rather than having to fight through some local news site trying to get me to pay $9.99 a month to read one piece of rage bait. I’ll pay a nickel or maybe even a dime for a good one.

I know they’re targeting AI agents, but it is only a matter of time. I say roll it out to consumers dude and I know that sounds fucked up, but like I would much rather just pay a nickel or a dime here and there than have ads making it impossible to even read the article. The people will compete on price and I bet it will stay really small for most stuff. It gets creators paid in a similar model to YouTube clicks or Spotify streams, but in a much more direct and equitable way. Google, AI has to pay for the content instead of just handing it over.

[–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I'm with you. My concern is that I haven't yet figured out how it's gonna be ruined for private consumers by corporate consumers yet, so can't know how to prepare lol.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

A lot of sites wouldn't exist without ads, because they want their stuff to be freely-accessible and don't have any other revenue streams. It would also cut off lower income people that couldn't afford to pay.

The only business models that have really worked online have been:

  1. Ad-supported.
  2. You pay for the service yourself, like a monthly subscription.
  3. Someone else pays for the service for you, for example freemium services (paid users subsidize the free users), a lot of Lemmy servers (admins cover the hosting costs), etc.

If ads go away, a lot of sites/services would have to become paid services, and smaller ones might just shut down entirely. We'd end up with even more consolidation of the market.

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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (36 children)

The weirdest part won’t be bots outnumbering humans: It’ll be bots writing articles for bots, bots summarising them for other bots, bots commenting underneath, and bots measuring the engagement. … Meanwhile three actual humans are somewhere wondering why the internet suddenly feels so empty.

[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 34 points 1 week ago

It’ll be bots writing articles for bots, bots summarising them for other bots, bots commenting underneath, and bots measuring the engagement.

[–] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And you wonder why the mega corps want you to give your ID for accessing the internet. Then they can tie your traffic as an actual human and generate ad monies.

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[–] devaly@ani.social 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Hosting shit has become too expensive, and the ads will generate less and less revenue, as it's mostly bots generating clicks and views. This is changing the internet at an incredible pace.

The worst is that any attempt to create a place free of bots will only become a target for LLM companies to gather clean training data.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hosting has never been so inexpensive as it is today.

[–] dan@upvote.au 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

There seems to be two groups of people:

People that use services like AWS and pay hundreds (or more) per month: "Wow, hosting is so expensive now!"

People that host a bunch of stuff on a $40/year VPS: "Wow, hosting is so cheap now!"

I've got several VPSes with 40Gbps (shared) networking, 8 or 16GB RAM, decent amount of space on RAIDed enterprise NVMe SSDs, fast AMD EPYC CPUs, that cost less than $60/year. 20 years ago before VPS hosting became popular, you'd need to pay at least $100/month for a dedicated server with a consumer CPU, single IDE hard drive, tiny amount of RAM, on a 100Mb/s connection.

Not to mention being able to host a bunch of stuff at home for cheap with a low-power single-board or mini PC., and Hetzner making dedicated servers very cheap too.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm reminded of the episode of TNG where they trapped Moriarity in a simulation so he would think he had taken over the ship.

Maybe we can just have an internet just for billionaires where they have AI produce internet content so they can advertise useless AI products to AI bots run by other billionaires while the rest of us go on with our normal lives in the real world?

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

There's also the fact that an internet full of bots, AI slop, and privacy risks is making more people pull away from the online world. In our poll, 97% of people said the internet today was a hellscape compared to its early days, and it looks like things are only going to get worse.

Looks like the cure is inherent in the disease. Anyone else remember the early 90s when Usenet was just text-based fun and then some motherfucker thought it was a grand idea to run ads? I do, and it's been downhill ever since.

It's sad that it has come to this, but as usual a handful of greedy fuckers have ruined it for the rest of us. (My personal opinion is that big tech could have arrested this downhill slide at any point, even from back in the first days of email spam, but have chosen to monetize it every step of the way instead.)

Real humans are already individually opting out, one by one, as we each personally get sick of the slop and realize it's just not helping anymore. For myself I'm only on intermittently, I've ditched all social media, Lemmy is all I participate in regularly now beyond the odd comment here and there, and that seems about right for me at this time.

I adjust it regularly, often just by going offline for days, but I had to see the problem before I could change it. I think that's where a lot of people are, just now seeing it for the first time as a real problem affecting their quality of life directly.

But like any other addiction, the point of turning is different for everyone. These fuckers on the other end, filling everything with slop and running bots without end, are just speeding it all up.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

These fuckers on the other end, filling everything with slop and running bots without end, are just speeding it all up.

It's the tragedy of the commons writ large.

Started off with cooperation and general good behavior between users, passed through corporations bulldozing the place and putting in paid parking for their strip malls, now we're at the Wall-E stage where advertising billboards talk to robots mindlessly doing tasks in abandoned cities for some nebulous "greater good".

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[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I don't host things on the open internet anymore. I have a small set of services I host for a group of friends and family and I set them up with tailscale.

On the flip side, I've been constantly frustrated because every time I have an idea for some little quality of life tool that involves pulling data from a site I would normally have to browse to directly, I can't do it because everything is captcha'd to all hell.

I think http/https is dead at this point.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Locally we have been setting up some mesh systems. Its been fun work. One of the best things about it is:

  1. All traffic is human.
  2. No survalance

Its in the early phases but its been a sucess so far.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Its in the early phases but its been a sucess so far.

Mesh networks, you say? I've gotta get in on the ground floor of this new advertising opportunity so I can rake in that sweet early adopter cassssh!

Claude! Code me up an ad-injection framework for this meshtastic dongle I just bought, stat! Time to get me a big ol' chunk of advertising real estate!

(sad /s)

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[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The Metaverse could've been a platform free of AI, offering a protected version of the Internet for people to be themselves. It's kinda where we may be headed anyway. Instead we got this...

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 31 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Facebook was always destined to be shit.

What we need is Tom to come back and just boot up the only MySpace servers and we can do a hard reset to the part 20 years or so.

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[–] zo0@programming.dev 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lol, lmao even
Sorry but that is a very misinformed idea of what Metaverse was, and was supposed to be

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's crazy! "The round error" was actually my nickname in high school!

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[–] modem_down@thebrainbin.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Your mum is a rounding error.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

LMAO gottem!

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