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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.wtf/post/47274322

So, the EU Digital ID is threatening to kill alt Android and Linux phones, but this is also probably gonna screw over desktops too, because going by how it's laid out by Mental Outlaw here, desktops could start being required to run Win11 with Pluton enforcement to comply with this, which would not only lock out Linux and BSD desktops, but also older desktops in general which can't run Win11, and even older desktops which can run Win11 but are too old to support Pluton, meaning just like you have to buy a new Google or Apple phone to comply with this, you'd also have to buy a new Win11 desktop or laptop as well.

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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It's really frustrating that this whole situation is caused by people not knowing how to enable parental controls.

[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I honestly believe that the "think of the children" is just the cover for more control.

Its happening worldwide all at a similair time - it feels coordinated.

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

It 100% is, it always has been. We've had decades of overreaching legislation towards tech based on the false premise of protecting children.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which is really dumb on Europe's part since they're trying to regain digital sovereignty. All this digital ID bullshit is doing is forcing themselves back onto giant US tech monopolies

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not so much dumb as suspicious.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

it feels coordinated

the epstein files proves that it's coordinated and it's happening because narratives like the gaza genocide and life in china are going more viral than the mainstream media; so they're working at making sure that there are too few people accessing it to keep future crimes against humanity from going viral again and the man-o-sphere's existence proves that it will work.

[–] Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They know how to do it. They don't want you to remain anonymous and free of their shackles. This was never about the children, just look at the amount of the pedophiles in the governments of the world.

[–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

Parental controls only work for their children (assuming they have any). They want the ability to also control your children, and ideally you.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Parents and children have nothing to do with this.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

This whole situation is caused by fascists in your government. Which shouldn't be frustrating, but rather galvanizing to action.

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

forcing consumers to use microsoft would be anti-competition, so no, not going to happen, at least outside of the usa

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

you underestimate us influence, they are getting this passed on at least some places around the world. and the eu hardware attestation scheme is a global foot on the door.

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I do not underestimate mcmuricas slimy influence, it looks like you underestimate politicians desire to be re-elected in the eu, and elsewhere.

Guillotines will be making a comeback soon enough, obviously not in the usa though, where it is more important to cheer for your political team, than it is to remove a pedophile from power.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually, people in the US are bringing guillotines to townhall meetings over data centers

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

The more the merrier

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

politicians have to balance their personal desire to be reelected with the empire breathing down their necks with their military bases all pointed to them.

if some law is important enough for them, they can see it passed.

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The eu is not going to force people to use windows, if they tried, that would be the effective end of the eu.

Some fascist countries within, and outside of the eu, whose rubbish politicians are owned by the usa, and israel, might consider it though.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

we're commenting under that very news though.

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

european hardware attestation is news.

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Never underestimate the power of ”protecting the children”. We are still fighting against Palantir and ChatControl 2.0 despite it getting constantly voted down, they are finding loopholes and dirty tricks to bring it closer and closer. They really want to feed all our chat data to Europol crimeAI. It’s been going on for years now and that came about through lobbying reasonably sane (but clueless) politicians with ”think of the children”.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is entirely about blocking political speech. Child safety is an excuse, and a poor one.

[–] CCRhode@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is a hijacking: True — the reader is damaged by restricted access, but it is also true that the author is damaged.

You post something that you intend to be read by the general public. You don't control access; the place where you post it does. After age gating mandates, that place will assume the worst — that your content is adult content.

There are three age tiers: adult, young adult, and infants. After age gating mandates, many of your readers in the general public won't comply by stipulating their ages. The worst-case assumption is that they're all infants.

When age gating breaks down, there's a mismatch between default age rating of authors' content with default age rating of readers. Content that is adult by default won't reach readers who are infants by default. Much of your content will go unread by much of the general public. One assumes this is age gating's intentional design — to restrict access to your content.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Would a vpn immediately solve this? Different hardware id no?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. Hardware IDs come from your device. They didn't care about the path your data takes. VPNs just made you look like you're somewhere else.

[–] dltk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think your response is only half right. To the extent the service you wish to access enforces location based rules, in some cases appearing to access from a different location where those rules do not apply, you may benefit.

But for services that are EU specific where ostensibly 100% enforcement of compliance exists, then it doesn't matter where you appear to come from.

Trivial services like Facebook--you might be able to login from another venue. Important things like your bank, the tax authority, your healthcare, insurance and so forth will be largely domestic and therefore no benefit to VPN'ing.