Do we know how the age verification process is gonna work or is this gonna be one of those neoliberal dystopian spystate kinda deals where the means of data collection is left to corporations only to be subsequently tapped by the state when the want to target individuals?
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So all of the mainstream porn will be blocked, leaving all of the niche and special-interest stuff available? Excellent, excellent...
If UK really wanted to protect the kids, they would've jailed Transphobe JK Rowings for hate crime
Oh no. Some hackers hacked out database and released all the ID information on high profile people. Oh such whoopsie, we made.
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I seriously feel this. I've found a little site that dgaf what country or state you're in. I use a VPN if I want a change.
Depends entirely on how it's implemented, because the website doesn't need to know who you are, only verify that you are over 18. Which can be done reasonably securely - you generate a random ID on a secure service (e.g here in Finland, we use our online banking stuff for official verification purposes), give that ID to the website, and the only communication between the two of them is "Is id 123 valid and an adult? Yes/No".
Now, if that "secure service", most likely a government contract done as cheaply as possible turns out not to be, and they keep logs linking those IDs to the URLs requesting verification, then the entire thing goes belly up.
So your bank now knows you accessed certain websites. And likely one or more middleware services. And you are okay with that?
Was an example of the security, not who is running the service. But I mean, guess who knows if you pay for OnlyFans or stuff like that?
Your bank.
And like I said, it's only really secure if the service doesn't keep a database of logs connecting the two.
Garbage. This info will be weaponized by anyone who is willing to buy it.
Absolutely. Super easy to use this in blackmail. Especially in a country as repressed as the UK.
People are not gonna agree with me but, it makes sense to have age verification just like you have to verify your age for tobacco or alcohol.
Is there a paper linking gooning to cancer, why would you compare those things
I don’t agree with him, but there are certainly health issues stemming from porn consumption.
Be it ed, or a mental health issue.
In what world is that risk comparable to cigarettes?
Even comparing it to junk food is a stretch, and nobody suggests we put age verification on chips.
Would it make sense for alcohol age verification if every household had beer taps installed? Because thats what internet is.
Its certainly the parents responsibility to make sure those kids dont drink. And if they do, there should be repercussions just like we have the same expectations with Gun use.
But it's disanalgous anyways. We make stores and establishments check for IDs. These websites are no different from these establishments, therefore they should also verify the age.
Its disingenuous to compare information flow to physical markets. They're not the same thing.
Yeah porn is definitely just "information flow", there's nothing beyond it and it can't affect minor individuals. Really? That's not disingenuous? So online gambling shouldn't be age restricted? There's no "physical" aspect to it.
Oh let's not forget, it certainly doesn't objectify women.
I mean it literally is just information flow - no? Doesn't mean it can't be harmful or dangerous but thats what it is and you equating to actions like gambling just show how's actually ignorant you are being here. Have a good day and don't reply to me thanks.
So much for being better than the US. Welcome to the downfall of modern society UK.
It's been happening for decades.
Indeed, it has been the same here.
“PrOtEcT ThE ChiLdReN! 👆🏻🥴”
I can not hear that anymore!
Children need awareness, rather than shielding, concealment and tabooing.
silver lining, the kinks of the future are gonna be sooo fucked up.
"I showed you my elbow, pls respond 🥺"
mastodon has porn and you don't even need an account to use search. also, this will just drive people to use sketchy sites that won't follow the rules.
You can literally find porn on search engines. Google images is a bit restrictive but Bing, Duckduckgo etc will straight up show porn in the image or video searches.
This feel strangely like it has little to do with actually protecting kids...
It's more about penetrating your privacy but think of the children is the go-to argument to sugar-coat that.
Someone should be asking what the sentence will be for kids who commit identity fraud and use someone else's ID to set up an account. It may flip the narrative to point out they are intentionally creating more criminal acts that will get kids in trouble with the law and possibly ruin lives.
It's about making LGBTQ content "adult only" and using this same mechanism to enforce ID law on that content. They've been doing it in some USA states for a few years now. No one wants to be the Porn Politician that votes against it.
If your kid has half a brain he'll do what we did as kids when porn sites were blocked on the home WiFi: He'll just get a VPN.
And when VPN websites were blocked on the home WiFi, we'd just download their apps on mobile data.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
Better to educate your kids on their natural urges and letting them use the more moderated sites than have them go down the more dodgy rabbitholes. No kink shaming but some of the things people do are nasty.
I'm disappointed that Pornhub is apparently capitulating instead of blocking access entirely in protest, like they've done in other jurisdictions.
I think they realized that they won't get the jurisdiction to bend on this one, and the general response from UK government will be "good riddance to bad rubbish".
They only really block access when there isn't an official way to validate. Iirc, Louisiana did this over a year ago and pornhub is doing age verification there now.
VPN subs will be up and UK viewership will be nonexistent
So people too young or too privacy conscious to use those major platforms will move to nicher porn sites. Doesn't sound like a bad idea at all... /s
Are they going to add a box to enter your age like on Steam that you immediately roll back to 1st January 1901?
6/9/1969....every time
They did this in Florida. They want you to submit a picture of yourself and your photo ID to a porn website
don't the uk have a history of straight up putting porn in print magazines and on free television every day?
So what privacy will I have to give up?
Actually I'm in Canada so I'm probably safe anyway.
I mean... I don't watch porn so this doesn't affect my anyway...
It’s tied to your account on the website. So it’s tied to all of your viewing activity. It could be leaked or compromised. It could be subpoenaed. It could be purchased.
So this will affect Reddit and Lemmy too, presumably?
It already has. Lemmy.zip if unavailable to users (of the admins own volition as they don’t have the capability to comply) in the Uk because of the law