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Good, the neoliberal world order is destroying itself

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago

Won’t go anywhere. But it’s a nice try.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 283 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Look how stupid your country is, to hand the death of NATO to Putin because you’re on his side.

Thanks for the war and death and heat, Americans.

Fuck you.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 131 points 1 week ago (11 children)

We're pretty pissed off at ourselves right now too. I'm sorry things got this far and wish I could offer more than fear and frustration...

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 135 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Just removing the US from another world stage

Soon we will be completely irrelevant

Which is the plan

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gonna be as isolated at North Korea by the end of this administration. As trusted too.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As directed by Vladamir Putin.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What's next? Helping Russia in their wars? I hope it was fucking worth it to "own the libs."

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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

france was right all along

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (8 children)

They want out because it's stopping to be a market for the US military industries, as Europe increasingly wants to spend domestically. As such, it now has very little interest.

US: We want you to spend more on defence!
Europe: Ok, we will buy more, from our own companies!
US: That's not what I meant! I'm going home!

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They wanted to leave during Trump’s first term because it helps Russia’s war with Europe

The increased spending is just meant to make the incumbents unpopular so the Russian backed candidates can win

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the US leaves NATO, Europe would lose a lot of support.

If the US stays in NATO, they would refuse to support them anyway and could use their veto power to stop any potential action.

If they're not going to have the support of the US military either way, and the US staying in NATO could prevent the organization from taking any action at all, it may be in the best interest of Europe for the US to leave NATO so they can't cripple it from within.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This took longer than I thought it would. It seemed like a priority during trump’s 1st term, then it stalled.

Given some of Putin’s comments lately, he seems increasingly restless. I wonder if this is related to that?

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He's preparing to attack the Baltics.

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[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (27 children)

I keep getting this sinking feeling that this is all leading up to a precise and coordinated attack of evil.

Russia bombards the EU, the US attacks Greenland and Canada, while Israel finally bulldozes Gaza and Iran. China takes Taiwan and the south sea.

All at the same time so NATO is overwhelmed and can’t decisively defend it all without risking spreading too thin. No matter what happens, one of the bad guys gains ground.

I honestly have no idea if this is even possible, it’s based on a dream I had a few weeks ago.

Disturbing thought though.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

NATO isn't gonna defend Taiwan or Iran. The US will defend Taiwan, Russia will defend Iran. NATO has no interest in either. NATO will defend Canada and Greenland as best they can.

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 week ago (13 children)

If they're going to withdraw then why are they strong arming all the other nations to spending 5% GDP on defense? If they're not in NATO, who gives a fuck what they want?

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago

That's the elephant in the room.

For those who don't know, Trump is threatening tariffs on Spain for not complying.

To me it means that the threat of leaving Nato is a ruse to facilitate armament for a big war against China. Fewer people would support that.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you think Drumpf may be a Pootin asset, then it makes perfect sense. Spending more GDP on defense usually makes the incumbent party less popular, which may create opportunity for russia leaning candidates. Obviously, this would weaken NATO. NATO countries go along with Drumpf because they really still hold some hope that USA won't leave the fold. They are still in the Denial stage of mourning. Anyway, events in Ukraine have shown that more GDP spending on military is pretty much essential for any country within range of ruzzia.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Probably because they want those 5% GDP spent for contracts with the 'murican military industrial complex.

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