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Can you make specific apps bypass the system volume (lemmy.ca)

submitted 6 days ago by loremnop@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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So I am finally putting in the effort to move over my music production suite to my linux PC, and genuinely this is just better than windows audio. The only thing I have not been able to replicate is how ASIO would bypass system volume.

This was useful because it allowed me to keep my audio workflow and everything else balanced seperately.

It was also really useful in foobar2000 (now replaced with the much nicer fooyin) because of replay gain. Replay gain would keep each song in the same loudness range allowing me to set my desired volume with my audio interfaces physical knob.

Now if I want to replicate this workflow I need to max out the system volume which removes the ability to quickly equalize the two workflows.

I hope I described this in an understandable way.

I use Fedora KDE 44 with the audio group installed (so jack and pipewire)

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So you want per-app volume control? Easy enough via pavucontrol/-qt, be it native pulseaudio or over pipewire.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago

AFAIK the "right" way to do this is use a virtual device for system audio, and have that in turn output to the actual audio interface, so you can keep it maxed out.

But that doesn't really feel like the ideal solution.

That said I'm probably missing something. EasyEffects is able to process audio in ways that should enable what you're asking for, I just don't know how.

Also, if you haven't already, check out qpwgraph. It's a virtual patch bay for routing audio around however you want.

Best part, is it's not an add-on, really. It's just a GUI for capabilities that pipewire already has.

[–] uderecife@piefed.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Try Helvum (https://github.com/relulz/helvum).

Helvum is a GTK-based patchbay for pipewire.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

there are probably simpler apps that can work for OP. I recall seeing one called Pavucontrol or something on Flathub.

[–] Ikonaka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago

pavucontrol is for pulseaudio which you probably would rather not use when dealing with more professional audio

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm also in the process of moving my music production (composition, DJing, editing, a little bit of sound design for video) to Linux. Just curious: what software and interfaces are you using? What's worked well for you and what hasn't?

[–] Ikonaka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

For Djing I love to use Mixxx, really solid for mixing and organising music, though I still need a VM with rekordbox if I wanna prepare usbs for club equipment. For music making I like Cardinal which is similar to VCV rack and I do compostion with reaper. Overall the proaudio pacakge group of Arch linux will have most of the stuff you need. For interfaces most class compliant usb interfaces are fine. I control them with qpwpgraph, though I want to try out firewire sometime soon since its legacy and getting reeeeaaaallly cheap second hand

[–] loremnop@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

I might not be the best to ask for this, what I do is just recording live sounds and then using plugins to mix and master them. On linux I use Ardour to record and also to host the LSP plugins. I don't really work with midi at all and just compose on instruments so IDK what is good for those.