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    til about manjaro (feddit.org)
    submitted 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by Kazel@feddit.org to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    Today i learned that manjaro has, in parts, german roots and is maintained by a german company. For that i, as a german myself, want to strongly apologize in the name of the german people!!

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    [–] whalescenery@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    I think as with most things, Manjaro does have a niche. I like Arch for a whole load of reasons and I've previously used it for years (although I've now moved to NixOS ).

    But the company I work for has a great policy of letting people use whatever OS they want. I normally go with Manjaro because it's "Archy" enough to satisfy me but it's much easier & faster to install fresh - which matters if you get a new work laptop every year and want to get started quickly.

    [–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Arch has, in parts, Canadian roots and was originally developed by a Canadian programmer. For that I, as a Canadian myself, want to strongly say "you're welcome" in the name of the Canadian people!!

    [–] Kazel@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago

    thank you <3

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

    Everyone knows real germans use OpenSUSE

    [–] tmjaea@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Tumbleweed!

    It's so good, it does not deserve to be in such a niche today.

    [–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago

    I think the Arch derivatives that are more user friendly than Arch kind of took over the Tumbleweed niche. More compatible, more popular, access to AUR, not tied to a corporation, some bundle proprietary software, etc. I still like Tumbleweed but that's why I left personally.

    [–] kiri@ani.social 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

    As not American, wanna appologize for Microsoft Windows in the name of the American people xD

    [–] Kazel@feddit.org 18 points 19 hours ago

    can't apologize that :D

    [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

    I like Manjaro! What's wrong with it?

    [–] hamsda@feddit.org 19 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    They have had their fair share of (sometimes easily avoidable) fuck-ups.

    Stuff like:

    • letting their websites SSL certificate expire (multiple times)
    • telling users to set the date in their OS back to when the cert was still valid as a workaround
    • accidentally DDoS'ing the AUR (I think multiple times too?)
    • IIRC also some internal struggle about how to use the money donated to them

    Especially the SSL cert hurts. They cannot auto-renew their websites SSL cert (and didn't seem to learn from their first mistake) and they want to maintain a linux distro?

    [–] cambionn@feddit.nl 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    The "internal struggle" was actually related to the rest and (hopefully) sorted out the other issues.

    The tl;dr is that Manjaro was setup as a company with one owner who often didn't do what he was supposed to and no one else had access to do it. This caused issues like the SSL stuff but also other things. Obviously this made quite some volunteers leave over time, but as the distro itself is actually quite nice also a bunch didn't want to give up that easily. Those pretty much gave that one person the choice to transfer the distro to a new to-be-made non-profit (leaving only the commercial activities in the company) or they would leave (and likely fork it or something). He agreed and they're now in the legal process of setting up the non-profit, where important things will not be in the hands of a single person.

    So all with all it was a bit messy, but it seems they got it sorted out now. That should also prevent issues like they've seen in the past. So with that I wouldn't recommend against the distro. I still have it on some secundairy systems, where my main one (I need to say this naturally) got switched during the drama to run Arch (btw).

    You can read more here: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/manjaro-2-0-manifesto/186171

    [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

    That's good to know

    [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Fair enough. I can play HalfLife Alyx on it, and that makes me happy.

    [–] kik2civeswt1@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    What hardware and software do you use for this? I've been trying on and off for maybe a year trying to get an HP Reverb G2 working with envision/monado. My most recent struggles were with lining up build dependencies, like boost, cnmatrix, etc., which I chalked up to version incompatiblies between Manjaro/AUR.

    [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    I have a Lenovo Legion 7 laptop with an 2070 super Max Q. I play with a Quest 2 over Steam Play. It's amazing.

    Why don't you just use SteamVR?

    [–] airgapped@piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    Another Manjaro user, there are dozens of us!

    [–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago
    [–] cambionn@feddit.nl 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    Outside of what Hamsda said (to which I've added some context), the thing with Manjaro is also that it's target is easy usage which attracts beginners. Now that isn't bad per se (it was my first distro too, and I still run it on some machines. I'm not a hater) but it does become a thing when those people go to Arch-related spaces (like the Arch forum or the AUR comment section) asking Arch-people for help.

    For one, Manjaro isn't Arch. It may be based on it, but it also has it's differences. It's better to ask on the Manjaro forums. Why some Manjaro users go bother the Arch forums I never understood. The Manjaro forum is very helpful, quick to react, and more appropiate. No reason to divert really...

    And secondary, Arch is a distro aimed at more advanced users and has a "know the basics, read the documentation, understand it, and try stuff yourself. And if you thΓ©n still don't know you can ask" expectation. Since Manjaro attracts beginners, the questions they ask are often not only about a different distro, but on the level Arch expects you to be able to figure it out yourself making it rather a nuicance (after all, they're asking beginner questions in a space for advanced users). Manjaro users doing that somewhat regularily gave it a bad reputation.

    [–] Kazel@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    good point

    Why some Manjaro users go bother the Arch forums I never understood

    me neither

    highlight the last time was a manjaro user asking me in the aur to help him with his manjaro issues on the package. fucking leechers