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If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated.

This was the Chairman of the US Intelligence Committee

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[–] PrincessCory@lemmy.wtf 1 points 31 minutes ago

Tell me, if i spy on you ewery day after work when you are unlocking your bicycle to go home, and each day i see one more number, so at the end of the week i know whole passcode for unlocking your bibycle.

Did i not violate your privacy and security just because you dont know that i was spying on you??

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

You can't be targeted if you don't know you're targeted.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago

If they put cameras in your bathroom and you are not aware, your privacy wasn't violated.

There's a reason they own all the major operating systems, messaging apps, social media platforms, cloud infrastructure and spy agencies.

There's always going to be some deliberate loopholes and exploits in or between the supply-chain to get to you when you're inside their ecosystem.

But some companies promise you're "secure" and "private" if you use one of their expensive, shiny offerings. They swear it on their marketing, ads and PR releases.

It's that comfy feels of paying more for a false sense of privacy and security that matters.

tldr; Use Linux and open source.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

So what I’m hearing is that theft doesn’t exist if no one is caught. Right? Supermarket chains etc. complaining of theft from any source other than recovered goods from said theft should be null and void.

[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And somehow voyeurism is still illegal.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago

It's illegal when the poors do it. The rich can't cash in on that as easily.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

How in my bathroom? Like in the bidet?

[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The American intelligence apparatuses had been using this line of reasoning to legalize their illegal operations from the start: computers collecting data on citizens are not committing 'surveillance'. If a human needs to assess that data then they apply for a rubber stamp from the state to allow surveillance of a human, but for the computer to collect and asses? There was never a need to seek authorization: it's not surveillance. Computers collecting data and autonomously acting on that data--even to kill--can never be illegal. Welcome to the United State of Ammerikkka.

That's to say: it never mattered. The verbal affluent to legitimize what they're doing is just that. To people ignorant of computers it may have sounded reasonable back then, given it was dressed up enough, but in the day of computer-controlled economies and warfare I don't think it can stand anymore even to a moron.

It can't change though as changing would necessitate all the current political and economic structures to change: to voluntary put in excruciating effort to give up power. Not only are you asking those in power to debase themselves, but to also debase all those around them. It cannot happen.

What can happen and what should happen is that you should act. You are in control of you: liberate your computers. Not only is this something that is possible, but you are also empowering yourself. When you do this you inversely disempower the polities and economic controls that are superstructures built on this foundation of computer-surveillance and -manipulation.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 40 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a crime if it's not discovered?

Someone ought to tell his wife to get STI tests done pronto.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

To a Republican? The answer is a resounding yes!

And if it is discovered, it is the fault of the person discovering obviously.

[–] redkid1324@sh.itjust.works 24 points 12 hours ago

Really? The Schrodinger defense?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 26 points 13 hours ago

What do you MEAN 'if we don't know'??

EVERYBODY FUCKING KNOWS

[–] distal@lemmy.ml 28 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If I kill someone without them noticing I would not be a murderer by that logic.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 12 points 12 hours ago

Hey look, yet another GQP talking point that boils down to not understanding (or willfully dismissing) the idea of consent. Rapists one and all.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 24 points 15 hours ago

“Congressman, here is a supercut of every time you’ve taken a shit in the last five years. I’ve been posting updates on an invite-only website. Every member of your staff is in there, and they LOVE seeing each pained expression you make. But you didn’t know, so I didn’t violate your privacy.”

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 45 points 17 hours ago

This is the type of motherfucker to say:

"Well I raped you while you were drunk asleep, and you didn't wake up, so was it really rape?"

[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 115 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Did you really get raped, or did the roofie I put in your drink do its job?

[–] bleustenns@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago
[–] lmdnw@lemmy.world 79 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Mike Rogers deserves to not ever feel safe or secure. I hope he dies.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 11 points 15 hours ago

Well I have some good news for you!

Just not yet lol

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago

People in the US have less privacy rights than Chinese people. They have the amount of privacy that corporations permits.

[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 51 points 19 hours ago

This is the guy Abdul El-Sayed is running against.

[–] waltersf@bookwyr.me 60 points 20 hours ago

Mike Rogers has been IGNORING privacy violation complaints for ten years*!

[–] subterfuge@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago

“You can’t have a home invasion if you don’t know the robber is hiding in the closet”

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

i thought that guy had sworn off suits for good

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

It’s an older clip, sir, but it checks out.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 19 hours ago

Alrighty, so we'll install hidden cameras in all the showers in your home. You won't know about it, so you won't mind either

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 9 points 16 hours ago

A tree didn't fall in the forest if you didn't hear the tree fall in the forest.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

No that's a violation of the law, your trust, and your privacy.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

They could as well publicly and really piss and shit all over these hearings at this point.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

Wasn’t this from over a decade ago?

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

When you find out are you allowed to care in retrospect?

[–] distal@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

Apparently this guy is Abdul El-Sayed's opponent