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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 70 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Canonical patronizingly forcing a tool/workflow onto users against their explicit and unequivocal rejection of it?

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[–] python@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

My parents are coming over today because their ZorinOS installation suddenly started acting up after an Ubuntu Kernel update. Thanks Ubuntu.

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[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 96 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I hate ai as much as the next person, but I'd have a different mandate. I would require all code to be fully reviewed and understood by a human. Let's call it quality control.

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago

And also have high readability standards, ideally higher than before LLMs.

[–] lung@lemmy.world 37 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Agreed. It's not sensible or practical to ban AI, and Linus is right. Why is Linus right? Take a look at the number of Linux CVEs being patched over time. In 2022-23, that was about 300 per year. Last year it was 5530. This is almost entirely as a result of AI scanning tools, including Copy Fail priv escalation that was there for 8 years. The security apocalypse is just about arrived, and the most recent round of cyber models coming out do this way better than before. The Hugging Face incident story was truly unbelievable if you read / watch the details, a historic event. Everything is about to get hacked. So it'll be all about maintainers being reactive to this new reality and burden for some time to come

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There is a difference between using AI scanning tools and generating code for production

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 points 11 hours ago

Yes and no. The ability to "understand" code that makes AI capable of finding security bugs, is correlated with AI's ability to write code. AI is just really good at code related tasks, and categorically banning all AI usage is shooting yourself in the foot.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 13 points 16 hours ago (19 children)

The Hugging Face incident story was truly unbelievable if you read / watch the details

It didn't really seem that way? Leaving containment seemed more like a configuration oversight than a skill on the part of the model. Accessing HF involved an 0-day but the commentary I saw didn't indicate that it was a next generation hack.

Given that AI exists, and can scan or otherwise find vulnerabilities, maintainers must do so because threat actors inevitably will.

It remains to be seen whether the whole race will improve security generally? I imagine not?

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[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How would you enforce that?

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

How do you enforce code is not AI generated? I don't see how one is more easily enforceable than the other.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago

I mean how do you enforce someone doesn't copy code from proprietary repos? You just try your best, and only come down on the cases where it's obvious.

LLM users are lazy so they inevitably just copy+paste something asinine without reading it.

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Well it depends who you are. An employer could enforce it.

But it was serious question. If you're going to have a rule then there should be a way to enforce it, otherwise it means nothing.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 145 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

Good. There will be choice.

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 121 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I like this attitude. I think if the LLMs weren't forced down everyone throats, there would be a lot less hostility towards them

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 104 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

It’s just so suspiciously and aggressively being shoved down our throats.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 64 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

Yes, it's not the technology I hate, it's the people pushing it, demanding it, saying it will replace humans. Those people can fuck right off. Technology exists to serve humans, not the other way around. We are being sold a lie. The technology has some interesting aspects, but the pushers are pushing bullshit.

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Technology has always replaced humans though. That's ultimately the point. The problem becomes when there aren't alternatives for humans to do but we still live in a capitalistic and consumeristic society.

I think everyone want's their lives to be easier, but they also want to be able to eat, survive and thrive.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 26 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Alright. Hang the fuck on.

Class war.

Technology is incapable of doing anything. It literally can do nothing. It can be used as a tool for sure.

It's currently being used to fuck you. It's fucking me. It's fucking us.

BUT ONLY AT THE DIRECTION OF BILLIONAIRES

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Tools are labour made solid. They're built by workers, and used by other workers in order to be more productive. Unlike a worker, a tool can be owned, which is why the owner class will always prefer more of the "skill" in production come from tools and processes, even at the cost of some craft or quality. Because they get more control.

Anyway LLMs are like a knowledge tool in this case. A truly devastating weapon in the class war, assuming workers agree to adopt it and help improve it.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Class War

You can say that again.

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[–] kaykay@piefed.social 6 points 14 hours ago

I find it all very "people writing text/code by hand on a computer they own isn't generating subscription revenue and can't be data mined by advertisers and governments as it's passing through a data center unencrypted"-type suspicious...

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (31 children)

Damn. I think it's time for me to finally try Mint. Currently using 98% Ubuntu and 2% Windows because unfortunately there's always some sort of Windows-only software I need for one reason or another. Yes I've tried Wine, I haven't gotten it to work.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

People love it for some reason but I cannot recommend. Newer laptops are trapped between no support under X and a half baked version under Wayland. And I didn't find the community supportive enough.

[–] dapperdan@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Mint is based off of Ubuntu

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

May I recommend something fedora based? No dealing with Ubuntu or arch problems

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 15 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

your saying snap-packages arent enough of a cluster-fuck to turn you off of Ubuntu?

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