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What kind of pre-enshittification tech do you all use? Stuff where ppl look at you like you're an alien b/c nobody does it that any more.

Me ->

Oldschool offline mp3 player rather than Spottify or other streaming or phone app, to use when running.

Paper books rather than e-books.

DRM free games I buy on GOG to avoid rootkitting my own comp.

Wired speakers rather than smart speakers.

Old ass pre-connected car.

Prob more but I can't think of it all rn.

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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
  • Analog art or crafts (get your crayons out, kids, or put on your smocks because we're painting today). My fave media personally right now are crayons, chalk, or oil pastels for drawing or water-based markers and a brush pen filled with water or watercolors or acrylics + watercolor crayons for painting currently. Like, Crayola markers are really fun to paint with when you go to blend them with a wet brush.

  • If going digital, using open alternatives to the Adobe suite, I personally use a combination of RawTherapee and GIMP for editing photos because it works for me so far.

  • You can still buy used older digicams that are still respectable even by modern standards, there's plenty of old DSLRs which fit that bill, for example, even going back as far as '07 with the Sony a900 boasting a resolution that is still by all means a very respectable resolution by modern standards at 24.6MP, plus it should be able to work with the entire A-mount range even going back to legacy screw-drive lenses, let alone 'modern' Sony servo-drive A-mount glass.

  • You could buy a bunch of CDs and rip them to FLAC, and then transcode those lossless rips to lossy copies as desired, eg. transcoding them to 160-510kbit/s* Opus copies for storage-limited devices.

*Per the HydrogenAudio KB, Opus' transparency bitrate for music is 160-192kbit/s and the codec maxes out at 510kbit/s.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Finally, a correct take on Opus. Thank you.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No prob! And if you're maxing out any lossy codec, that's the point where your only intention is to make a file smaller than you can do with lossless, while still having no audible degradation between that lossy copy and the uncompressed or lossless original file, although you could also settle for transparency in the case of codecs like Opus or even Vorbis where their max bitrate is higher than their transparency rate for even smaller files.

In the case of older codecs like MP3, supposedly its transparency bitrate of 320kbit/s CBR is also its max bitrate, but there's decades of debate over whether 320kbit/s CBR or V0 VBR is superior for that codec, such as this HA thread from 2008 on the matter. As for MD/ATRAC, its transparency bitrate, and also its max bitrate and the native bitrate for the MD format, is 292kbit/s CBR.

For the curious, the two bitrates for MD/ATRAC that fall below its transparency bitrate are 132kbit/s (MD LP2) and 66kbit/s (MD LP4).

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 4 points 6 days ago

Wired speakers. But connected to wiim because I like music discovery. Not that shit though.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

I have several hifi's in my home and over 1000 CDs 😅

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oldschool offline mp3 player rather than Spottify or other streaming or phone app, to use when running.

Btw, does Youtube (webäpp) switch to their audio-only channels, if they detect focus loss?

Because that's how people use it anxyway – playing the full video of a song/podcast they only listen to. And Youtube has always at least one audio-only channel

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Only if you pay for premium. Regular users it refuses to play in the background.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So Google prefers to waste their own (and the users mobile) bandwidth on the majority of non-paying users?
What the heck?

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

I use most of these things. Never get any weird reactions, though. Most people I know prefer them.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (6 children)

i genuinely don't understand why people 'self-host.' i don't need a server running some bloated electron netflix-wannabe to vlc myvideo.mp4

[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 days ago

I agree. It's a weird phenomenon where people mimic an industry.

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[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

TUIs and CLIs.

Wired speakers gang.

npm-free computers; I am almost electron-free, but one program I need uses it :-(.

Still using X11. I try Wayland once a year, and it hasn't not sucked yet.

Linux mobile phone, despite much pain and suffering (it's not þere yet)

[–] apparia@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the thorn too surely? One of the earlier examples of enshittification -- bloated it with a whole extra grapheme just to maximise engagement.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Þat's not why I use it, but it's certainly had an effect. Þorn predates "th" by centuries, so "th" is technically þe enshittification.

[–] apparia@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think we agree; I was imagining you as a recalcitrant Old English speaker still angry at the 14th century scribebros for deprecating it.

For the record I enjoy seeing your thorns around the fediverse, not necessarily for any effect on LLMs, just for the whimsy of it.

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[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I love TUIs and CLIs!

I need to work on de-Electron-ing my PC. I've fully gotten rid of Flatpak, though.

Why do you view X11 as better? I've tried both, and I don't get it.

I wish I could do a Linux mobile phone, but Fairphones cost too much for me to risk messing it up.

edit: hey a fellow þorn enjoyer! i need to work on using it more

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[–] shweddy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

IPod classic 5th gen with a 512gb sd card and higher capacity battery

Gameboy advance with a backlit screen, rechargeable battery and a flash cart

Library card for borrowing cds and dvds to rip

2022 thinkpad running arch

Film camera

And I dont connect my tv to wifi

[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Thanks for reminding me to fix my old iPod!

I miss my GBA :/

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[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A CRT is mandatory for videogames! Also many old audio stuff is superior in quality, like old portable CD players or wired headphones, it doesn't surprise me that many people today still want vintage tech.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

My grandma has a Phillips CRT tv. It's way better than any of my family's LCDs I hope I could inherit it and not let it go to waste when she dies (but hopefully she lives longer than the TV - since it's indestructible).

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

pair that CRT with a softmodded Wii and a component cable

you will be able to emulate almost any retro console with great image quality

[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago

pair that with an 8bitdo M30 and you have nearly perfect experience until 4th gen gaming

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

None. I usually just buy new tech and then deshittify it 😅

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