This is why tha part of Watchmen where that blue guy just sort of sits there rules so hard. Goes to a setting and does nothing
this post was submitted on 16 Sep 2026
158 points (92.0% liked)
Memes
17051 readers
959 users here now
Post memes here.
A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme.
An Internet meme or meme, is a cultural item that is spread via the Internet, often through social media platforms. The name is by the concept of memes proposed by Richard Dawkins in 1972. Internet memes can take various forms, such as images, videos, GIFs, and various other viral sensations.
- Wait at least 2 months before reposting
- No explicitly political content (about political figures, political events, elections and so on), !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca can be better place for that
- Use NSFW marking accordingly
Laittakaa meemejä tänne.
- Odota ainakin 2 kuukautta ennen meemin postaamista uudelleen
- Ei selkeän poliittista sisältöä (poliitikoista, poliittisista tapahtumista, vaaleista jne) parempi paikka esim. !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca
- Merkitse K18-sisältö tarpeen mukaan
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Can you imagine? Fucking Shakespeare I mean. I wonder if his dirty talk was in iambic pentameter too...
On the other side of this, the cliche of "Simple misunderstanding we could have resolved if one party hadn't said "I don't NEED to hear your explanation!" before storming off" can fuck right off and die.
Gotta love the “this season wouldn’t have even happened if everyone had been upfront and honest with each other.”
Gotta love the ...
No, wait, it's the other thing.
Gotta hate with the burning rage of a thousand suns...
People do that all the time though, often to disastrous effect. Once it stops happening IRL we'll stop making art about it*.
* while it does happen all the time IRL, I think some writers use it as a shortcut to get to the plot they want to pursue without going through the character development that establishes why a character might act this way. That is lazy and annoying writing, but it doesn't invalidate the whole trope. People really are like that. Clear communication is hard work and a lot of people just don't do it a lot of the time.
Sure, sometimes people are like that, but even if it meets the absolute minimum standards of plausibility, why on earth would I waste my time watching/reading it? It's just bad writing either way.
Relatedly: everything is art, but not everything is good.
I don't think it's an automatic "bad writing" if a character does something that a human might do, even if it's a monumentally stupid thing to do. Humans are just like that sometimes. Sometimes it adds to a story, sometimes its incidental to an otherwise fine story, sometimes it's a lazy device to help a writer deliver pages on a deadline. Whether it's bad writing is contextual.
Re: your relatedly: I highly recommend bad art. We're appallingly bad at classifying art as "good" and "bad" to begin with, and even when we have an agreed-upon standard, most art is a mix of the two. I have found that not taking other people's opinions on art at face value has led me to some very enjoyable art.
Ahhh yes, the old idiot plot. Where would we even be as a culture without it
All scripts of Shakespeare's comedy category that I've read are idiot plots. The characters constantly explain to the audience, but never to each other. It enables all the hijinks to unfold. So, it's been around at least that long.
For example, twins separated at birth. If the twins in the Comedy of Errors explained who they were, or if the cast once questioned either of them on their strangeness, everything could be clarified.
It extends to outside comedies, even the tragedy of Romeo and Juliet could have been avoided if Romeo had confirmed Juliet and Friar's plan, or had checked to see if she was still alive before offing himself.
We would probably have a much higher (and more incorrect) opinion of ourselves. We're all fools, and recognizing our own foolishness reflected in art doesn't make it not so. Just makes it easier to think about.
Maybe? I don't think that's where I learned to introspect from. But maybe the stakes are lower learning to socialize from stories, there could be something helpful about that
A lot of narrative stories (fiction and non) are in the format "person in situation X makes decision Y and experiences consequences Z" with the moral being "if you are in a situation like X, doing Y will have Z consequences" ("moral" in the sense of being a generalizable life lesson). I think they're an important part of how we discuss life experiences as a community, both extraordinary and mundane. And it is a lot easier to learn from stories than to experience consequences in real life. The problem is that storytellers are all humans and sometimes bad at storytelling, so care must be taken when learning from stories, and they all have to be validated against real life experience.
And then before you know it, you've become an art critic.
You're probably right. I have grown up to be pretty pretentious about art, despite how little I understood it at formative years. Other people might be shaped by their experiences with it differently than I was
How the same art affects different people is an ongoing fascination of mine. I grew up using books to take my mind off of life, and I read voraciously. No one around me really had a high opinion of "art", and I didn't even really think of the books I read as art, at least not until I was an adult. As I get older I see more of the impact that art has had on my thinking and life, though it's still very much an ongoing project. Comparing my own experience of art to others' is why I love art criticism, especially "bad" earnest criticism. Even bad faith "criticism" is kind of interesting, in that it says something about the selfish worldview of the author, but I have limited stomach for it.
Deriviative
Perfection
*derivative even
Aww, I liked mine better. Didn't know it was pronounced like that
nix deriviations
WHERE
Oh sorry dude I just have ptsd from calc 1
Authors trying not to write a child to be a moron, getting the adults and themselves in danger and inevitably resulting into on of their deaths [challenge impossible]
Children are morons, though.
Insofar as everyone is morons, yes.
About as original as this meme format