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[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

"We can choose again" makes it sound like they want to go back :D

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

It absolutely was a necessity, without parking spaces cars would have clogged the streets.

Now, I don't mean to defend the cars in this case, living in a European city and buying a car is and was dumb.

However we have been better att hiding parking spaces in underground or integrated building that are less bad than wasting that space for parking.

At the time the solution was needed, but times change and now there are far far better solutions.

[–] beaverlicioustree@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Trains and bicycles existed in 1976. No it wasnt a necessit

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 52 minutes ago

You misunderstand me, it was needed to create a parking space where people lived, else people would just create their own spots all over.

I don't disagree with you, there absolutely were alternatives to the car even back then, but people kept buying cars, and it became a problem for the city government to deal with.

So they did what was needed.

Remember, France was and still is a democracy, and they had to solve the issue with a pressure of reelection looming.

Your argument ignores human nature, and selfishness is part of that.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

Park & ride is a very popular thing back then, people from out of town with less access to public transport can just leave their car outside the city and ride a train in, it definitely isn't a necessity and it never was.

[–] schnokobaer@feddit.org 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No idea what the benefit is of deliberately misinterpreting such an obvious point. What caused the thing in the picture wasn't a necessity.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 0 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

Without restrictions on who could buy a car, the city government had to deal with the issue of either dealing with people parking wherever or making a parking spot people would use.

You can't ignore human nature.

You also need to remember that in a democracy, the city government has to accommodate the populations wishes.

[–] schnokobaer@feddit.org 2 points 23 minutes ago

Little to no restrictions on who could buy, where one can drive, park a car were - and this is the last time I'm reiterating the same point because I know you just pretend not to get it - a choice. A deliberate choice made by thousands of cities around the globe, influenced by auto and oil industries. Cities were totally different before and have often been bulldozed specifically for that choice. And the other way around is perceivable too: once cities stopped deliberately choosing car-centric design, they were able to gradually stop being like that. See Paris post 2015, Amsterdam post 1980s. Both of which could not be had it been a necessity. Because it never was, it was deliberately decided to be this way.