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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

The guy depends on Trumps goodwill, and Trump would punish him if he ditched the tax.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Taxes are how to get rid of billionaires. Tax the rich!

[–] kingkong@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

sure i dont mind but rather do land value tax and all of them should have to pay 50% tax as if they liquidated their holdings then at the time of leaving and market value of all assets.

like most wealth tax that is. income tax based then. 5% isnt even much remove income tax instead

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

No no just tax the rich, no convoluted scheme they can avoid.

[–] CluelessCalls@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

That piece of shit ought to be moved to the bottom of the ocean.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 33 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When are they going to write an article about me for also doing this normal thing?

[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

that would be a perfect onion or mcsweeneys premise :)

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 89 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

How many billions will he even have left ??.? I can't imagine,... poor mr Jensen's wallet

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Unrelated, but I'm sure he's got the tackiest wallet imaginable. Maybe crocodile leather or something.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

enough to buy more jackets still.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't know all 3 had or planned to move.

I wonder how many would have to move before the tax actually becomes revenue negative (compared to not being implemented.)

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sure they didn't actually move. They just bought a house in another state and declared it as their primary residence.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes and then the audit will be entertaining. If they have multiple properties and fuck up, they could easily maintain residence.

And whatever their residence is, if they do things that look like working while physically present in the state, they are at risk of being forced to pay.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Could be the only good use for flock. We now can show they've been in the state the whole time.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The average tax income from billionaires in california looks to be around 10million a year. So combined the about 200 billionaires in california are paying 2 billion a year. Rough numbers would be that is 150 of them left then the one time tax would start being a negative income in 10 years. That assumes money stays flat.

Honestly there is no way that this ends up being a serious net negative and these folks are still operating in California enough that they may fail to avoid residency review.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Estimates seem to vary but I've found a good few at 3 billion total from the wealthiest 200 Californians.

Also, given the article noted that:

Departing billionaires slashed projected one-time revenue from $100 billion to $40 billion, with Page and Brin's exits alone costing California $26.7 billion.

That implies the current tax revenue from billionaires would drop 60 or so percent. So, presumably tax revenue drops from 3 to 1.2 billion, just based on current flights (and ignoring knock on effects.)

So, no one else leaves and we don't count knock on effects, I'd guess it'd take ~ 21 or so years before this starts cutting. But, of course, knock on effects (folks decamp to say, Texas which seems to be snagging as many once Californian businesses as possible...) It's going to be a very interesting, depressing experiment. (Really feels like a race to the bottom but that's the America we know and,uhhh, love?)

[–] kingkong@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

avg income tax from billlionaires 10 m a year ONLY thats so absurdly low and 200 billionaires paying 2 b a year is like 1% of their billions? holy fuk we need to increase the taxes.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 59 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

take his leather jackets next

[–] username_1@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

G.Threepwood: I sell these fine leather jackets...

[–] Rujo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Grog, grog, grog!

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He doesn't want others to think he's as poor as those guys who cannot afford to pay these taxes.

Edit: typo

[–] deeprlyeh@lemmus.org 23 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

So they just went somewhere else to not pay taxes?

[–] Cherries@lemmy.world 38 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

These folks don't actually wanna leave. Peter Thiel will blow a lot of smoke about how he's totally gonna leave California because of Communisim or whatever, but there's a couple things to keep in mind.

  1. The billionaires are spending mad money to fight this tax. This is not the action of someone who plans to leave the state.

  2. The infrastructure that makes the billionaires rich cannot be moved from California easily. A person is easy to move, a warehouse less so. Those assets can be taxed, even if the owner leaves the state.

  3. Fuck these guys. Billionaires do not contribute to the economy; they suck out the wealth and hoard it. Even in the worst case scenario of rich folks leaving the state with their ill gotten gains, the state wasn't gonna get that money anyways The worst case scenario for California of the mythical "Wealth Flight" is a bunch of parasites moving elsewhere.

These parasites have had it too good for too long. A measly little one time tax is a step in the right direction that I hope opens the door to more aggressive taxation on these dregs of society.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca -5 points 10 hours ago

The billionaires are spending mad money to fight this tax.

Mad for regular people money. From what I've read, what they've spent is a small fraction of what said tax would cost them (though if you've seen different, I love new info!)

A person is easy to move, a warehouse less so.

These folks don't usually have warehouses, but whatever, say physical infrastructure. All that can stay, the boss can roll out, rock in Texas and take their private jet to and fro as needed. (Or, do their stuff remotely. I doubt Thiel is walking through cubicles etc.)

The worst case scenario for California of the mythical “Wealth Flight” is a bunch of parasites moving elsewhere.

The worst case is that the tax revenue that those billionaires bring (which sure, in a moral vacuum should probably be higher) goes elsewhere leaving California needing to plug the fiscal gap by taxing less wealthy folks or eliminating/reducing services.

[–] original_charles@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Texas usually. Maybe another Red State.

[–] deeprlyeh@lemmus.org 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thiel went to Nazi land, Argentina.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)
[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 13 hours ago

Bye, Felicia

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

He's actually a decent man, but I'm sure I'll be hated for that opinion around here

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 22 minutes ago

Lemmy is very groupthink. :)

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 hours ago

A slave owner can be decent to his slavee, right?

And we can oppose slavery as an institution.

Same with the billionaires. An individual billionaire might not be a pedo fascist. Possible? Sure. I still hate all the billionaires. Even the decent ones. Because allowing a single individual or a single familiy to hoard that much wealth is toxic to the society.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Yes and no. He is really lieing about AI and misleading the public and investors. He may be more benign than most, but AI is harmful, even if just at the energy use/environmental impact side.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

he just want to keep the grift going long enough so the other AI dont stop buying his chips.

[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is are you sure that this is his believes? It could very well be that he is believing everything he says.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

That doesn't make it any less harmful.