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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I know Putin is desperate but this seems incredibly foolish. Way more than invading Ukraine.

Let's hope they're wrong because it would be disastrous for everyone.

If this is legit they should just assassinate Putin and be done with it. Enough is enough.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Average intelligence could tell you Russia has already struck NATO countries.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Are you saying Danish intelligence is worse than average intelligence? As a Norwegian living in Denmark, I can verify this statement.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 hours ago

Russia is 2 weeks away from attacking a nato country

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Putin knows he's in trouble. He will have to double down or fold. And we all know that he's too insane to fold.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He'd rather be beaten to a pulp by NATO than admit he's losing to Ukraine. He's been provoking NATO into retaliation and calling it an unprovoked attack but they're not biting and are happy to let Ukraine humiliate him some more. The desperate move left is to actually attack a NATO country outright. That it needs to come to this.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago

He'd rather have his entire population beaten to a pulp by NATO you mean. He doesn't give a shit what happens to his people, for as long as he doesn't show a moment of weakness that would result in him falling out of a window.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

This is not a worry.

Personally, I think Poland alone would break Russia; probably before anybody else was able to mobilize. They are champing at the bit, they pray Putin does this.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Look, fuck russia sideways with a rusty fork, but I dont think they would attack nato. It would be suicide

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We all think they won't attack Ukraine also.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I mean, when the cia under Biden warned it was coming, I felt he was pretty certain. In any case I hope I am right and russia doesn't try to properly attack a nato country

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Physically they haven't but politically they absolutely have (Trump et al.)

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yes they havent "explicitly" targeted a nato country, as per an attack, at least not so intentionally as to cause the other nato countries to respond with direct action.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I still don't think they would attack. It would be MAD all over.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Xi Jinping is literally, actually in the fucking White House, right now, and Trump just spent the last week telling Ukraine to stop attacking Russian fuel.

It would be war and they've got a pretty good chance of winning since they've already defeated NATO's largest force.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They haven't defeated any forces. Or do you mean the US because Trump wouldn't get involved?

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Correct. Russia and China have effectively defeated the USA portion of NATO because I truly believe Trump and the GOP would refuse summons from an Article 5.

Russia and China are the reason Trump is president.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Maybe. Trump's power is waning, and it's hard to predict exactly what he would do anyway. It's likely democrats will control congress next year and can send aid. If Europe can hold out until 2029, a different president might be more willing to provide active support.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

With 53 GOP senators Trump is all powerful in the USA. They already purged the military generals and the rest of the federal government employees.

Resistance is coming from local and state levels which means fuck all for NATO.