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[–] hcbxzz@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (49 children)

Lets say you have a 300mi range EV. that sounds great, until you realize you can't actually use it all.

We like to save the bottom 20% for emergencies and battery longevity, and fast charging is too slow above 80% to be worth it, so effectively, on a road trip. only the 20%-80% range is usable. Your 300mi+ range just turned into 180mi of usable range. And then factor in ~10% battery degradation over time, or range reduction in winter conditions, and you could easily have as little as 150mi of actual usable range between charging stops. And that's assuming the charging stations are perfectly spaced apart.

That's only a little more than 2 hours at highway speeds. And that's not along time to be driving, even for a single person. In gas cars, we will regularly do 3-4 hours without stopping at all. And if we do stop for a break, it's rarely at gas stations or places with charging stations. Those are typically awful places to spend the limited amount of time you have on a trip.

In practice, the charging interval is far, far less than the ideal 300mi and far more frequent.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 19 hours ago

Nice try, BP

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 84 points 1 day ago (38 children)

"Nobody stops to fuel their vehicle taking gasoline, gets out, rushes as fast as possible, puts as much fuel in the car as possible, and gets back in the car and drives away"

WTF? This is exactly how I have refeuled every single time I have ever gotten gas. If I could pay a little extra for a pit stop style refuel I would. Who wants to linger around gas fumes, processed "food" , and energy drink boner pills?

A big draw of EV for me is that 99% I don't need to stop anywhere to recharge. If I do though I want it to be as fast as possible.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

We bought an EV and it took a few trips for it to click that you don’t need to charge to 100% or even 90%. Hook it up, hit the restroom, buy a latte, then get back on the road with 50% charge.

You only need enough to get to wherever your longer parking+charge is going to be.

We also figure out the range anxiety. Getting down to 10% isn’t a big deal, especially if that last stop is going to get you back to full charge. Our EV doesn’t even have that great of range to start with.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (23 children)

We have been wanting an EV (something other than a Swasticar) for our next vehicle and think we could deal with the extended charging times required during a long drive or trip, but we ended up ruling it out.

For us the big problem is the difficulty getting parts and service. Service for the models we looked at is only available at dealers (and only some dealers), and parts are regularly not in dealer stock.

We really don't want to risk taking a cross-county trip and having the car break down 200 miles from the nearest mechanic. With the additional real possibility of having to wait weeks (or months) for a part, an EV is not an appealing choice for us, at least not yet.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 32 points 1 day ago (30 children)

What are you expecting to break down? A modern internal combustion engine plus continuously variable transmission is one the world's most complex pieces of engineering in common use today.

An electric drive system is trivial in comparison.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

You would think that, but Hyundai EVs are popping ICCU fuses and Tesla motors all leak coolant from the seals. There is a Tesla that went 3 million kms. Only needed 4 battery swaps, but it needed 14 motors. Coolant leaks will be problem at higher mileage.

[–] holy_scroller@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is the truth. 4 years with a Chevy Bolt EUV and so far I have only replaced the tires and windshield wiper fluid. As someone who worked on several ICE cars for 2 decades, it's kind of a dream to have so few things that can go wrong. The number of moving parts in a EV is a couple magnitudes less than an ICE car.

People don't account for the time I am not spending at gas stations sniffing fumes every week or getting oil changes. The handfull of times I don't charge at home are a fraction of time spent dealing with ICE routine maintenance.

The only thing I am slightly worried about is that my car has 3 coolant loops, which is one of my least favorite repairs.

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[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I think the reason they don’t have spare parts is because the motors are less complicated and, in theory, will need fewer replacement parts. An ICE motor is like 10,000+ moving parts, an electric motor is like 300 moving parts. They’re an order of magnitude less complicated.

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[–] jerakor@startrek.website 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My biggest problem with my EV is that I was stupid to get the service pack as it never has any service needs. Breaks last twice as long. No oil changes. No critical fluids other than wiper fluid. The easiest to fail part is the 12v battery which is standard for any car. If something hard to replace fails it is going to be a sensor and I've had that happen on a gas car before and no one had it in stock because no one stocks random sensors.

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