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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 day ago

They were not arrested. They were detained, questioned, and released. No justice was had today.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I know you can't just detain people arbitrarily in a free country, but it sucks that they're probably just going to flee back to Israel now that they've learned the lesson that they're not untouchable outside of Israel and the US.

Reminder that the IDF has published guidelines for its troops on how to evade getting arrested by an ICC member state while traveling abroad, which is definitely something a very moral and humane military does.

If the ICC had real teeth, there would be guides like that for American soldiers as well. The reason that there are none doesn’t mean the US military is not committing large scale crimes against humanity.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What about this is “arbitrary?”

These nazis should not be allowed to see the light of day again.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As in the concept of evidence-based prosecution, jury trials, and reasonable sentencing. Not black-bagging people or assassinating them in the small hours of the night because of a presumed association.

If that's how you want to treat Nazis I won't try to disabuse you of the idea, but you definitely shouldn't want or expect the State to hand that retribution out.

EDIT: more contextually, I'd like to believe that if they had the evidence and authority to keep indefinite custody of them, they would have. But they were released. With everything going on in the US it's easy (at least for me) to forget that that's how things work in a functioning democracy. Throwing them in a hole based on a whim and against what you have the legal authority to do is what would be arbitrary.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

oh fair points - it is arbitrary in that context for sure. These assholes are doing asshole things. Just remember what the german ww2 era nazis did was “legal” then, too. I suspect our current fascists will claim “it’s legal” too. Thanks for your reply.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

silver lining, Israelis will think twice before vacationing in Europe. Let the genociders vacation in Russia where they belong. Israelis are the most unbearably obnoxious tourists.

[–] detren@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Israeli tourists often treat any service worker abroad like a dog they’re so terrible.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are making strange comments. Articles say they are using evidence from these soldiers’ social media. I think these guys are going to prison. I mean, I hope, but I also think so.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article states they were released.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Drat. I'd read another article that didn't indicate that they were released. I can't read every article about the same topic, so my bad for missing that in this one. Thanks for clarifying. Now I'm disappointed.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wait, but they were released?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After the interviews, they were released

Yes, despite the soldiers posting their crimes against humanity on their own social media like they were proud of it.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ahh shit, i had glosses over that. I hope Belgium will not let them flee back.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

Under different circumstances someone belonging to an organization guilty of murdering children would be locked in jail for eternity.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

when you're against genocide but decide to be passive-aggressive about it

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I think I value my life as much as any other person would value theirs. Its a war crime to hurt me.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Jewish Nazis in Belgium. Poland would have been more poetic but this goes with the whole history rhymes thing.