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[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 1 points 13 minutes ago

Trump will go down as one of the worst leaders in world history, beside Nero.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 59 minutes ago

This starts in November, and not a midterm saver. Unless US is able to significantly restrain Ukrainian attacks on refineries, oil instead of diesel is what will get exported more. The reason for US to do this is that they know oil prices will collapse the global economy based on their November military plans for Iran.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Hit the ships carrying it. Legit targets. The orange traitor is a russian asset.

[–] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I honestly feel like the only reason to do this is so that when Ukraine inevitably and justifiably hits a Russian tanker that happens to be destined for the US is so that Trump can say “fuck Ukraine, they attacked us”. Over like a few hours of fuel supply demand. Ideas planted by Russians into the minds of US leaders under different pretenses - or hell maybe even explicitly. I can’t help but feel like they’re looking for an excuse to be on Russias side.

The quantity, from who should be an adversary in an active war against who should be an ally, is far too low to be meaningful other than for ulterior motives.

[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I think the trump brain would consider this playing 3d chess while anyone casually observing is like, of course that is his move.

Pretty sure you nailed it with your summation.

[–] Stigger32@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So call me confused… But isn’t Russia short of diesel itself? And isn’t this breaking a bunch of agreements between western countries?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes. They have banned exports. While sanctions lift is dressed up as diesel for us, its actually all energy sanctions relief to all.

[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

They are having diesel shortages and super high prices since the refineries keep getting blown up while simultaneously a lot of the middle east ones are out of commission. So not necessarily a ton for America to vacuum up and feel substantial relief but it does give fat stacks of cash to boost refinery repair efforts by pumping up demand and prices for Russian diesel

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

Russia is supplying America with 10 minutes worth of energy.

[–] skunk@lemmy.zip 43 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 21 minutes ago

Trump.has wedded himself to the oligarchs who are making money from data centers while an overwhelming majority of Americans hate those motherfuckers. Did you see what he did a couple days ago? What in the actual fuck. He's been disconnected from reality for his entire life, but dude is drifting off into space right now

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 hours ago

To win an election, that's all he cares about

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 hours ago

A complete and total throwing of Ukraine under the bus. I cannot believe the Russian interference in US politics is so nakedly obvious and still nothing being done.

Maybe it's moot as the chaos really starts in just a few weeks. But wow.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's funding it. No money for Ukraine but they'll fund Russia, who apparently needs America's help to defeat Ukraine, not just needs to stay out of it. Ukraine might defeat two of the worlds superpowers at the same time. Slava Ukraine.

[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, the smart ones in us know.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Valid military target, then, Zelenskyy

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Nothing would make me happier than to see US diesel purchased from Russia go to the bottom of the ocean.

And I'm a fucking environmentalist.

[–] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

I mean, if it manages to remain in barrels then it’s possibly better for the environment than being burned lol

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Right? My preference would be that Ukraine steals it for their use... but blowded up is second best

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Meaningless unless US stops supporting satellitte targeting assistance to Ukraine.

Everyone here seems so enthusiastic about having a proxy war on Russia. You gain zero, and next Russian leader won't be so patient with you.

[–] tangosox@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

Russia won't stop unless they run out of funding. And Russia is not our friend. They have no qualms interfering with our and other countries elections and have shown they don't respect borders. You don't want Russia to get stronger at this point, if they let off attacking Ukraine then you negotiate. You don't reward a bully when they are being a bully.

[–] Duchess@piefed.linenoise.vip 24 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It’s definitely an investment in the MIC. Our country is crooked and cooked.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 20 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd be angrier about this deal if I didn't suspect that Trump tweeted this without any planning and when his flunkies try to act on it they'll just get stuck asking Grok 'how do I import russian diesel" and never actually figure out how to do this.

I don't know if this is a hot take, but I don't think Trump's administration knows how international business or oil shipping works. I legit don't think they can figure out how to buy diesel from Russia.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Russia is currently importing gasoline, due to domestic shortages caused by the war.

Even if the US could buy it's way out, I don't think Russia has enough to sell

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe they just want an excuse to bully Ukraine into stopping attacking Russian oil refineries.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That, and Europe just figured out how to deal with a large portion of Russia’s shadow fleet. This gives that fleet US protection.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 1 points 51 minutes ago

How are they dealing with them?

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah you got it on the nose

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Definitely crooked.

But cooked? Not holding my breath.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago