Ask Lemmy

Everyone has different values, different pieces of information (and different amounts of time to do research), and different resources.

No, I don't judge people for not boycotting something I'm boycotting, though I'll mention it if it's going to cause a problem. For example, a friend is a massive fan of seeing things in theaters, including re-releases. If they want to see a re-release of Harry Potter, I'll decline, saying that I'm boycotting Rowling, and offer an alternative.

However, if they've been saying that they're really for/against something and seem to be going to buy something from a company that opposes that view, I'll mention, "Hey, I don't know if you know, but they support XYZ." If they still have to get it, then it's none of my business: everyone has different needs and different resources.

I think people should boycott entities that they feel deserve it, but only to the extent that their financial situation warrants it. For example, I try to not buy from Amazon. I think everyone should do this, but I have the luxury of being able to afford paying more for the same thing bought elsewhere. Some people don't, and that's OK.

Yes, even myself.

Thinking anyone is a terrible person is a great first step in making sure you will never win them over to your way of seeing things.

No. I might explain them why they should boycott it from now on. But I do it only if their political views align with valid reasons to boycott

Nah. People are more ignorant than they are evil, and ethical consumption in capitalism is at least difficult. I'm sure I'm doing something that inadvertently helps an evil cause somewhere in the world...

i really don't a reason to judge people

Only if they do something really crazy like willingly using Microsoft Teams.

Sometimes. If somebody claims to be a gay ally, but then eats at Chick-fil-A and shops at Target or Hobby Lobby, they’re not really being an ally. You’ve gotta put your money where your mouth is if you want any change in this world. Stop giving money to people that hate you.

We all have different priorities in life. I'm far from perfect so I'm in no place to assume moral superiority over someone just because of a product they purchased.

Only if you disregard any viable alternatives.

Not if they have to simply because of affordability, of course not. But I don't see why anyone who isn't American would be going anywhere near the US right now, and certainly trying to avoid American products. Canadian grocery stores are labelling what products are affected by tariffs and what products are Canadian and most people are really making an effort to not buy anything American.

I really do miss visiting the US though. I would go to Buffalo a lot for day trips and that really is a wonderful city, and you can't beat clothes shopping there. Not sure what it's like with the tariffs, but I shopped last fall for clothes and got AMAZING bargains.

I judge people who claim to be boycotting something they were never planning on purchasing. That's like not collecting stamps as a hobby.

Yes :3

Family member wanted to go to a store that was in the same strip mall as a Hobby Lobby and I was sitting in the car hating everybody that I saw going into that Christofascist rat den. Those assholes are part of the reason healthcare and insurance is so fucking abysmal and hostile to women.

If you don't have to support terrible people and you knowingly do anyway, it's not going to be easy to make a discernment personally.

I think a lot of people haven't come to the awareness that there is NO such thing as ethical consumption under our current systems tho (and you can't boycott everything bad without causing a lot more worse stuff.)

I dont Judge unless the person actively talks about hating that thing. For example if someone is constantly going on about how they big tech and they havent even made a single step towards moving away then yeah im going to judge. Stand by your morals.

I know someone who is always going on about how bad fast fashion is and she buys all her clothes from Shien to wear a few times. Like come on you cant expect your words to hold any weight when you say one thing and do another. I'd never say I support gay people's rights then give money to a gay people rights crushing machine.

Yes, but generally not really harshly. I just assume they don't know any better or don't have the determination to live up to their ideals.

Unless of course they genuinely are awful people, but in that event, there are signs far more relevant than merely not sharing my boycotts.

If they know, and it's not vital, and they don't care, then I think less of them.

Some people have less self control than a toddler

First of all, I would ask them if they're familiar with the boycott and the reasons why it is happening. If they are, ask them them if they have a reason not to participate. Based on that, and how serious the cause behind the boycott is, I would judge.

Of course.

What do you think about that?

I think that what I believe in is what I believe in, not what I expect other people should also believe in. I'm a not a priest or some cult leader expecting blind devotion and submission from others. People are more than welcome to (dis)agree with me and my values.

I also think I should be free to believe in whatever I want, without anyone else feeling entitled to decide for me what I can & cannot believe. I'm fine with them trying to demonstrate I'm wrong, as long as their demonstration is not about publicly shaming or forcing me in any manner.

BTW, this tendency you mention (to require others to act like we do), is the main reason I tend to steer away from any gathering/collective/org. Too many people can't resist whatever tiny little bit of power they get their hands on and they will abuse it.

literally hitler! seriously though its an individual choice but all the same I see lines at chik fila and just think of pigs gathering for slop. So its basically a data point. The more someone knows you the less likely it matters.

Well, no, not everyone is equally informed to begin with. And you can't make such a blanket statement as "if you don't live like I do you're a terrible person", reality is nuanced, always.

However , I will judge the hell out of them and add them to my mental lists of People Who Do This Or That. But no, they're not necessarily terrible persons

I've been boycotting Ray Ban because they make the Meta glasses. I met a guy recently who has them but he works for Meta, so I guess I'm not too surprised. I told him that I hate the concept of AI glasses especially if they're made by Meta. Apparently Oakley and other companies are going to start making them as well,but Oakley and Ray Ban are owned by the same company. I don't even want to be looked at by someone wearing the Meta glasses.

What you feel and what you care about doesn't always make it through to your actions.

Haven't you heard the ones who say "I hate league of legends", and proceeds to play it all day? There is the general dislike for AI lately, then people use it when they need to anyways.

It really bothers me to see, someone stand so hard by their point, and then give it time, and see they are happily consuming what they originally hated.

Is it the urge to look good from the outside or what?