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A hacker was once a computer enthusiast, and the media made it into a name for criminals who break into other people's systems.

Decades ago, people started using baud when they meant BPS. Not many technical people back then, but it wasn't possible to correct the few who made the mistake. Even one top member of the CCC (Chaos Computer Club) said it's just “baud” now, no matter the real meaning.
(baud = symbols per second. A symbol can transport multiple bits, so a V.32 modem with 9600 bps worked at 2400 baud, 4 bits per symbol.)

GIF is an image format. Multiple frames stored in such a file can get played like a video. But today every video without sound gets called a GIF.

AI is an old term. But today most people say AI but only mean genAI.

It's even more absurd: There are gamers who demand computer games without AI. WTF?

AI was always part of computer games. Even the early computerized board games. I remember Half-Life fans loving the enemy AI. And I think one of the games in the Wolfenstein franchise had enemies that found cover when shot at. That's normal, old AI. Not genAI.

If AI is really lost, how do we discuss the thing that was once considered AI?

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[–] dudeface@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I always preface it with Generative AI if I am going to use it

I work in the games industry and AI is already widely in use for NPC behaviour

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

I miss leetspeak personally

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

"GIF" as in giraffe, btw.

You forgot the biggest pronunciation hijack of the century.

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The developers of PNG at least documented the pronunciation right from the start: ping

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[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Baud comes from Baudot code. The things I learned getting a HAM license.

[–] Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just say I'm getting old and can't cope next time

[–] Sandbar_Trekker@piefed.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ideally, AI is the larger umbrella term for just about anything. It should not be the term used when speaking critically of a specific kind of AI: NPC AI, TTS (text to speech), STT (speech to text), ML models for vision, GenAI (LLMs, image generators, audio generators, video generators) etc.

When speaking critically, most people do mean "GenAI" and that should be the distinction.

[–] ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well one thing we can do is tell the fuckwits who want computer games without AI to learn literally anything about the subject.

We could use terms like "predictive systems" or "expert systems" or "monster control systems", but they're all more specific. I say we keep using the term AI when talking about the field in general and when someone complains tell them to stop talking nonsense, and then keep using the correct term.

[–] insanemantis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This reminds me of the same naming treatment that telephones got, once something else got called a phone

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, the term hack has been around a lot longer than computers. Its past meaning is just no longer valid. I was watching the old tv show The Odd Couple, Felix's daughter said she just wanted to hack around, Felix had to ask what she meant. While she really couldnt explain, "you know dad, just, like, hack around", which in this sense seems to mean doing nothing in particular. Saying "I couldn't hack it" has a double meaning these days.

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It might change with the next AI winter.

Also, the old "AI" was already a bit of a stretch from "artificial intelligence".

In the meantime, I'll probably refer to the old AI as "enemy controller", at least in the code.

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

When I started learning the programming language Common Lisp, I thought there was only one AI winter. That's all the Lisp bros were talking about and how awesome the Lisp machine was.

But recently I'm wishing for a new one and looked it up on Wikipedia: there were already several AI winters.

The next one will be the AI winter for the next decades.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I think you're referring to artificial general intelligence (AGI) and super intelligence (SI) or artificial super intelligence (ASI). Both were coined many years ago (~30) to differentiate from AI, which was already being used for much more than the original definition (which was meant to be AGI, or even ASI.)

For all three, GIF, hacker, AI, you just have to accept that language is fluid. Words are co-opted from other places all the time to describe new things. And to be honest, all of those terms have been used for meanings outside their original one for almost as long as they've existed, especially on the scale of human language.

I used to lament the term "drone" being used for remote control quadcopters... But the world won, so I have to stop being a nerd about it, and accept that it has a broader meaning now.

And just to note, people don't just mean genAI when they say AI now. They use AI for everything. You wrote a program to track workouts in a database? Better call it... "AI!"

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

to be fair hackers could be all kinds of electronics and tech and depending what they are doing could also be called crackers or phreakers or such.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't baud = bps since we send 8bit "words" so for all of intents and purposes (except 40 year old gear) it's kind of correct?

Who uses baud nowadays though?!

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

How do we discuss anything when different people mean different things but use the same words? We all have weird perceptions of scale. Ask an american how far away 'far away' is. Then ask a European. Ask someone how they define 'smart.' Then ask someone who fits the first one's definition. You can get probably a dozen definitions each for words like 'friend,' 'trans,' 'fascist,' 'appropriate for children,' or just 'child.' Some people are dedicated to precision of language but society is full of people who say 'It was bluh,' because they either cannot, or just as often will not, put in the mental effort to find the words to express what they mean. Add in how most people don't have the time/bandwidth to learn what AI is, (or LLM, or genAI, or agentic, or neural networks, or conditionals, or statistical modeling, or anything else) but still want to feel like they do, so they map 'AI' onto some pre-existing concept in their head so they don't have to learn a new word.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I just act like Randal when someone says I "can't say that" or use "that word" anymore.

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