Kinda wild that app stores allow something like that. I wonder how long it'll take for someone to build the same up, but with the roles reversed: Men anonymously talking about local women π¬
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Of course they would. It's only allowed as long as the genders aren't flipped.
This kind of thing has been done before.
For example:
There's no way a libel database could be a bad business model
Oh great another centralized repository of data about people (uploaded without their knowledge or consent in the case of the men) that definitely won't be abused by bad actors
Anddddd......., it's already been breached: https://www.404media.co/women-dating-safety-app-tea-breached-users-ids-posted-to-4chan/
It's even mentioned at the top of the linked article.
Tea, which topped the Apple App Store charts this week β shortly before the app was hacked.
This post is directly under a post about the breach in my feed.
Oooooooooof
Saw that coming.
This is psychotic.
Someone saw that Black Mirror episode and said βLetβs make that for real.β
I think you mean that Community episode.
Creating a digital social hierarchy was on my 2030 bingo card... dang.
Huh...
Part of these types of things generally seem like a well-intentioned idea, but it's also so creepy, scammy, and gross. This data won't stop here by any means, and will be sold or used in a million different even shittier ways. Pretty fucked.
It's fine, no reason to sell the data, the service was literally just breached!
Don't these companies know how to properly configure a database? This seemed like it was completely preventable.
Starting salary for a cyber security expert is around 70,000β¬ and that's for someone who's relatively inexperienced so you would probably want to pay more like 90,000β¬, for these startups that's seven or eight employees worth of salary and they don't want to pay it.
The problem is it leads to things like this happening which kills their entire company.
Or they could do what they're doing now which is work with a consultancy company which doesn't cost anywhere near as much money but still costs quite a bit.
Lots of breaches are entirely preventable, but lots of companies don't like to pay for qualified employees that could prevent them.
They don't care. It's not their information and there are no consequences.
yeah, well-intentioned things tend to go sour when exposed to the glow of anonymity on the internet. Starts off innocent, and goes downhill fast.
The creator, Sean, stating that he started this app as a reaction to the online dating scene his mother experienced, seems fine: an anti-catfishing app would be great.
To give the devil their due, the data they collect might also be valuable as data on how women discuss men online, which at a cursory glance seems to favor far more hyperbole than I see in everyday life.
There is no way this would get abused by threat actors and mentally unstable types!
βHeβs a cheater,β Walker said, reading some of the comments on one post out loud.
"What clubs does he go to?" another person asked on a different post. "Heβs cute."
That illustrates the big problem...
Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.
It's not going to take long for them to get massively sued, there's no way they're vetting the posted info, and it's literally cyber bullying.
The guy (yes it's a guy) who made and owns this is a fucking idiot for not seeing the lawsuits coming.
Some guys are lying assholes and horrible people, but so are some women.
and some guys anonymously posing as women online to undermine the competition.
Lol, reminds me of a different thread about trump pretending to be a woman and writing into newspapers:
βBased on the fact that I work for Donald Trump as his secretaryβand therefore know him wellβI think he treats women with great respect, contrary to what Julie Baumgold implied in her article β¦ I do not believe any man in America gets more calls from women wanting to see him, meet him, or go out with him. The most beautiful women, the most successful womenβall women love Donald Trump.β
Carolin Gallego December 7, 1992. (Not a realperson)
https://mashable.com/article/donald-trump-carolin-gallego-new-york-magazine-letter
JFC, as if this guy wasn't already the poster child for cringe.
Posted yesterday about how he was the late night show's favorite target back in the day. FFS, does no one remember Trump: The Board Game! Or when he insisted everyone refer to him as "The Donald"?
Here's Obama tearing him a new asshole:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHckZCxdRkA
And that's how we got President Trump!
Also he wrote then like AI writes now.
Outside of the crap going on in the US fascist resurgence, women are generally defined as a minority that requires equity / special benefits and protections. Making an app to "protect women" by crowdsourcing information about potentially predatory / negative men is viewed as 'good', and would likely be 'ok' by many western country standards.
Making an app about women, with similar 'experiences' reported by guys, would be considered predatory, and would get shut down.
We can already see plenty of related things out and about -- like "women only" companies getting applauded by govt / media, while the same sources shame any business that doesn't attempt to get 50%+ women on staff. We shut down gentlemen's clubs for being discriminatory, but we cheer women's only spaces. Genders are not treated equally in the public's eye, and it generally skews in favour of benefiting women at this point, especially once it hits media/govt/courts.
I think this is the more realistic take on how it'd play out.
What a weird place some societies have come to.
Using technology as a surrogate for community.
If I was going to make something like this, it would have to incorporate trust chains. I don't care if some maga-hat says this lady is horrible. I care if my good friend Alex says she's horrible. One person's "this person won't shut up about communism" is a big red flag (no pun intended) but for someone else that's the dream.
When you sign up, you'd need to be referred to someone or be a root node. Anyone connected to you can be weighted differently. If some section of the tree is misbehaving, prune it.
But that's a lot of work
Same thing should be done with product reviews, and social media comments, etc., etc.
Really if someone makes a robust way to have a trust chain that integrates into the Internet at large, that would prevent a whole universe of problems we have in modern society.
I like where you're going with this!
Friendly reminder that Facebook started as FaceMash, an app for men at Harvard to rate the attractiveness of women.
Both are bad. At least these women are nominally using it for safety and not just looks rating.
Finally, I would be really darn cautious of using any app like FaceMash or Tea. Seems like a great way to get sued for defamation. Or to become the target of escalated behavior of one of the bad ones.
People should bombard them with DSAR requests.
If youβre in a state that support data subject removal requests, like California, email support@teatheapp.com and say this is a formal DSAR request to remove all of your PII.
They have 45 days to follow through.