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I was originally going to ask how many legal genders there should be, but I fail to see a compelling argument against 0.

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[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That... is a good point

It obviously did matter when same-sex marriages were not legal for example (some countries still do this...), but in most parts of the developed world today... yeah. I guess it does feel a bit grandfatherer-in right now

Obviously things such as the medical system need to know what biological sex someone is, but they don't have to tie into the legal system

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[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So that people with an M on their passport can do obligatory military service

(Yes, I am salty about this, how'd you know?)

((Also I think that's the only remaining way in which people with an M or an F are treated differently where I live so at least we're making some progress I guess))

(((Oh also they need it to more effectively grope trans people at airport security)))

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Denmark made the military service mandatory for women too this year.

I don't know of any legal differences at this point.

There's still plenty of differences but not from a legal perspective.

Like, maternity leave is longer than paternity leave, but that's not due to gender, but rather who is pregnant. For instance if a lesbian couple has a child, only one of them can have maternity leave, while the co-parent gets the equivalent to paternity leave.

Also, men aren't screened for breast cancer and vice versa for prostate check-ups. I don't think that's done on a legal basis though, it's just a healthcare service aimed at different demographics. Anyone can request a prostate check or mammography and get it if the doctor finds it necessary.

Changing rooms at public swimming facilities are separated by gender, but they often also have a third room which is for families with small children, people with handicaps or anyone else who don't want to or can't use the public showers.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Also, men aren’t screened for breast cancer and vice versa for prostate check-ups. I don’t think that’s done on a legal basis though, it’s just a healthcare service aimed at different demographics. Anyone can request a prostate check or mammography and get it if the doctor finds it necessary.

"Miss, I can confirm you still do NOT have a prostate. Please, stop coming here. This is very inappropriate"

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Government database defining what our names are is also backwards.

A name is what people call you. You can actually change your name or gender whenever you want. Most people just don't want to.

Like if you go to a new country, you can tell them anything, and that becomes your actual name, because that's what names are. Pisses me off when the word "preferred" gets put there. Like, no, that's not preferred, it is. The government database is just wrong and refuses to update their records because it's run by a bunch of racist, sexist, misogynist ignorant old fucks.

Gender is the same way. I exist for now, and while I do, I have free will. Perks of being alive. Only in your tiny little backwards kingdom do you think you have any control over your database. It doesn't change who I ACTUALLY am. That's just your preferred data for some reason and you've conned a lot of people into thinking you define them, rather than are just a single country on this huge planet's records keeper.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago

We don't.

I don't see any benefit to society in doing so. Why the hell does the government need to know what my gender is at any point?

I agree that gender public records should disappear.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

👆👆👆

This is part of my problem with bigger transitioning than I've already done. I've reached about the point where I'd have to get my DL sex changed to not run into various problems and I'm already super uncomfortable with how much the government knows about my genitals. None of that ever should have been the government's business to begin with.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Discrimination. That's the purporse.

[–] emptiness@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 days ago

Discrimination is at least what it was introduced for initially in my country. It was to do with women not having the same rights around inheritance, so they needed to record it in order to treat women worse.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

It's so the state can attack people. So it can control "marriage" privileges. Etc.

[–] Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Because church and patriarchal society basically.

[–] majster@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Procreation is a big part of human experience. So things kinda lead one from another.

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