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World and ML are two peas in a pod. The World moderators won't punish you for fighting with Tankies but they do monetarily support ML, and likewise ML developers own the Lemmy landing site which sends people to World.

My advice is to avoid Lemmy frontend whenever possible. Its maintainers are the owners of ML and really horrible Tankies, and most if not all instances who use Lemmy frontend support them directly.

For more info about that check out the the Documentation of Extremism Megathread from the !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works comm.

In the beginning there was lemmy.ml only, BTW no one mentioned it but the dev choose .ml because "Marxism–Leninism". It is a far-left guy with far-left ideology.

When reddit blocked its APIs a few years ago, a lot of people went to "lemmy" and a lot of new instance were created, like lemmy.world, which is not far-left, so a lot of people joined it.

Schismogenesis: two groups that perceive themselves as rivals will tend to amplify and identify with whatever initial differences they have.

I’m wondering how this historic feud came to be

The feud started when they killed Rosa a hundred years ago and we've been arguing about it since /s.

But seriously, it is essentially the same, age old disagreement between social democrats and Marxists, which essentially comes down to this. Social democrats are committed to working within existing systems, which means their views have to be compatible with what is allowed in the existing system. Marxists, on the other hand, are committed to international solidarity first and foremost. That means we won't sell out a group to win an election. Because the ruling class does not want to allow international solidarity to form, they will inevitably force the issue, and limit the scope of acceptable views such that you have to betray foreign members of the working class in order to work within the system.

This is exactly what happened back in WWI. Before that, social democrats had pledged to support international solidarity and to oppose war, but when war broke out, the ruling class of each country put pressure on every party to support the war, and the social democrats fell in line and failed to organize any coordinated, international effort to stop or even oppose the war. Those who tried to, and took a more radical stance, were accused of all the things we're accused of today: of being Russian spies, of supporting the other side (and thereby being "authoritarian"), of just trying to forment chaos or let the right win, etc, it's all the same rhetoric just updated to the modern day.

Of course, there are many users on both instances who don't fit in those respective sides, including people who aren't really interested in the politics and just wind up caught in the crossfire as people make assumptions based on their instance.

Both of your instances are the worst, full of nuts with terrible takes. Really not sure which one I dislike more. I should probably block .world and .ml, but then my Lemmy would be empty :(.

Lemmy world is probably owned by a corporation. Since they're the largest instance, they can control the hot page. ML is ran by the original developers of lemmy. They are full of pro communism accounts. I'll let you decide if that's cool.

Lemmy World definitely curates (shadow bans) people's feed. ML probably does too.

If you're not that political, don't worry about it.