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Basically just something people say that indicates a position indirectly, like how seperatists from a given region might always say they're from [region] and not [country] or how trump supporters call AI "SI" now.

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[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not so much a position as preferences and experiences, but the words people use to describe elements of music can often give away what they either enjoy or play. If you call a rhythm a beat, you're probably into electronic or hip hop. If you refer to a song's chord progression as "the changes," you must like jazz. If you use Italian words (outside of Italy I guess!) to talk about tempo and dynamics, you were either in an orchestra or fondly remember that one time at band camp. If a phrase is a "strain," you should get your lungs checked out. If the bridge is the "middle eight," get a colonoscopy while you're at it.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Also less specific, but when people describe music as "tight" or similar, they're usually a musician, or at least into music culture.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What happens if you ask for a double bass pedal at a practice room?

Dual to the death with Mikkey Dee from Motorhead

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That sounds like the beginning of a joke. If it is, what happens?

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Are those dog whistles? I think of dog whistles as conveying a specific message to those in the know.

The examples you gave seem more like shibboleths - something that can be used to identify or rule out being part of an identity group.

Calling taiwan "taiwan" instead of china marks the speaker as not from the PRC, but it doesn't send a specific message the way that republicans would say "welfare cheats" when they meant "black people", trusting their base understands.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah you're right I did mean shibboleths, just didn't know the term, sorry, should I edit the post?

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, as @Tikiporch@lemmy.world said, the meaning is clear.

It's such a fun word and i think it's such a neat concept, but it's annoying to use in a title cause it's quite a rare word. But i find that once there's a name for it, it's way easier to notice it, so i like to mention it.

Where i live we pronounce couch st and schuyler st as cooch and skyler, and the police dept is the police bureau. Not knowing these things is used as a shibboleth that marks visiters.

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[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 10 points 1 day ago

TIL the correct word for this, good comment.

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 days ago (17 children)

My favorite example is how francophone leftists or those who dislike america will call americans "USians". (Américain -> États-Unien)

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 31 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I call people from the US that as I respect the other nations in the Americas who are also Americans - from Chilean people to Canadian. All American. Neither of them USian.

But, I do also hate US Defaultism because it shows a lack of knowledge/understanding/awareness which only plays into the stereotypes that people from the US are stupid and ignorant. Which I think is disparaging to (some of) them, and they could show they aren't by being using self-aware language. Hence, "USian" . It's like how "woke" originated too - i.e. "awake" to institutional bigotry.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago (6 children)

No one but those from the US claim the term "American". Canadians do not want to be called American, and everyone else speaks a whole different language, and they prefer to be referred to by their county as well

It's not US defaultism, it's like calling someone from China Asian, or worse Oriental. It's not woke, no one will thank you for calling them by a label you've assigned to them as an outsider

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

"Eat the rich."

Only two kinds of people say it.

  • Those disenfranchised by capitalism

  • Literal cannibals that don't understand the slogan and would also eat the poor

[–] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

In what way does this qualify as "indirect"

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bulshit. Some of us cannibals understand rich people taste far better than poor people.

Joke aside which of the two groups do you place Motörhead in?

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"If you know what I mean 😉" is probably the most common one.

No, Frank, exactly what is it that you feel uncomfortable saying but forces you to make everyone else think it?

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Flip side of this one "it was the beer talking"

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

There’s no point in non-nazis using dog whistles when the right has made a cottage industry of convincing themselves that every innocuous phrase like “happy holidays” is a left-wing dog whistle anyway.

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[–] JerkyChew@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Probably the SportDOG Roy Gonia Mega Whistle. It's extra loud and works well.

[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

“Under no pretext” or “We protect Us“ gun fans

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