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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Wow, that quote is pure gold.

[–] lemmygarden@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

I say things in front of my cellphone and it advertises revelent content to me too

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t want a smart TV… my TV should just be a display.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

It should be a hub with a display.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just want a dumb TV at this point or an open source one that has great user control.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 12 points 1 day ago

Westinghouse and Magnavox TV brands both exist with dumb TV options, Max 32" though

The Westinghouse is unfortunately on Amazon, but I found the Magnavox at Canadian Tire for $200

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Used TVs are dirt cheap. Just buy one

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Find me in my living room, reading aloud SQL injection attacks and AI jailbreak promps like the newsreader from Rome

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

"No actors, tech-bros or other unclean professions may attend"

Little Bobby DropTables has entered the chat.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True Hacker SQL for True Hackers

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

A prompt jailbreak for any budget!

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Samsung is the second Electronics maker I've started boycotted, after Sony.

Sony was all the way back since the Rootkit scandal, Samsung was about a decade ago when a small tablet I bough from them have filled with unremovable applications and after a few updates became pretty much unusable because it's didn't have enough memory (clearly planned obscolecence).

Patting myself on back (and a little gloating) aside, Samsung has been clearly abusive towards their customers for a while (it was maybe the second electronics make to enshittify, after Sony) and this is not at all surprising.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Samsung has been abusive format least a decade

Sony has been abusive for at least two

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People should have been imprisoned over the Sony rootkit scandal.

For those who don't know - their music CDs had malware built in that automatically installed itself on PCs without prompting or notification that gave unsecured root access to any PC through a hidden service that couldn't be detected or disabled from within Windows. It was as bad as bad gets. There was no hidden EULA or anything. They just straight-up installed viruses on millions of PCs that opened the door for other malware to install itself at the root level where it couldn't be detected.

Sony should have been shut down entirely over it.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow. Yeah, fuck Sony. Seems they've always been in a race to the bottom. Now their insistance on a digital-only future makes so much more sense. They want to control any and all access to their products and don't want them changing hands IRL.

[–] tehBishop@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's even a little worst than parent post makes it seem, it's worth a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Wow! I remember the thing but never knew all the dirty deals.

Steve Heckler's quote on Napster sounds like Churchill after Dunkirk, "...we shall fight the users, we shall fight in the firewalls, we shall fight the cable companies and the phone companies, we shall fuck up your PC; we shall never surrender..."

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Unregulated chaebols are just as dangerous as Kim Jong Un.

This is why I have a Sony TV, it doesn't listen to me of that I can garuntee. This is a shitpost, the TV is from 98 and weighs like 70 pounds.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Imagine believing that they need "AI" to record us.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

They're using a classifier to capture metadata (like “does a dog live there?” or “does a baby live there”) by categorizing sounds. That's all technically legal, that's why they do it that way.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These TVs don't incorporate enough power to do any kind of serious LLM. The "AI" they're referring to here is likely an embedded speech-to-text engine. And that probably is pretty necessary for this--it would take too much data to send actual recordings to Samsung, but text transcripts are tiny and easier to search and index. It's easy to forget, but reliable speech-to-text has been around less than 20 years, and the tiny ones that can run on embedded chips are even newer.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Stm32 has made micro controllers with neural processors for years now and you don't need LLMs to do a lot of useful stuff for a spyware company. A small model can run even in really constrained hardware if you train it specifically for it. Afaik the STM32 ones are for machine vision processing on limited hardware where power is a concern. I'm sure you can do a lot more with a TV with constant power.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's exactly the distinction I was making. The person I was replying to said "Imagine believing that they need “AI” to record us." I was clarifying that this isn't the AI we hear so much about that requires huge datacenters; it's the kind of simple, embedded, "edge" AI that you can do with whatever microcontroller you have lying around.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I know I was agreeing with you

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, sorry. Sometimes I can't tell because of the threading here.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Its ok, text is also really ambiguous so I don't blame you

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[–] Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I'm happy with my $200 non-wifiable Insignia and hope it lasts a long time.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 151 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

I really hope one day people will look back at those practices the same way we look back at the normality of cigarettes being pushed on everyone back in the 50's.

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[–] stein2027@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (8 children)

If these tvs are capturing private conversations for advertising, where’s the consent for that?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

It's all in the EULA no one can opt out of, and no one reads, and they can change at any time.

You can blame companies who make hardware, but the laws on privacy are terrible.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

EULA has T&C that the first users agree to when they fast forward with the accept accept accept accept screens

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Doesn't matter if you technically consent, that shit is still illegal (at least in the EU)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Legality is pointless when the laws are not enforced.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 28 points 1 day ago

Illegal only applies when the law is an enforced deterrence. If the fine is low enough, it's the price of doing business. If it's hard to sue or there's no enforcement, the law may as well not exist. Unfortunately, with these large companies it's been both: low fines and long lawsuits, so by the time they pay a fine, they have earned 100x the fine in a month or so

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Those things aren't legally valid for consumer electronics or software in many countries (possibly most of the World) because they're considered an attempt at forcing a change in the terms of the sale after the sale.

They would be totally valid if they're presented to the buyer for confirming acceptance during the purchase BEFORE they pay which, "curiously", they never are.

[–] redballooon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Still it's the state of the industry.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Drink verification can!

[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago

I blacklisted my TV thru my router and I use a Google tv streamer

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

I have a tv that I can easily connect to my linux laptop but which can't connect to internet on its own. So it basically acts as a big computer screen. This way I atleast need to manage just one exit point.

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