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Automated license plate readers (ALPRs) aren’t just helping police investigate crimes anymore. They’re now being used to flag drivers for supposedly “suspicious” driving patterns.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

The longer I live, the more correct I am for never leaving the basement.

Maybe next life yall. Peace.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Anyone have links for actual abuse. Stories, cases, real links that show major corruption and abuse of this tech? Large scale the better. I have contacts in a group law firm looking for cases. Maybe people in those positions can make change. Get into the headlines. Link the best reports you can find below.

Upvote this and let's get traction.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 24 points 15 hours ago

"Papers, please."

This is the future Republicans want more of...

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean I got pulled over for DWB so, meh.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] loomi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Probably driving while black

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 31 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This is exactly why law enforcement using a nationwide surveillance system constantly gathering evidence on everyone passing one of their cameras is a 4th amendment violation.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

In a country that has been building its infrastructure around personal automobiles for decades, we cannot make that necessary function of daily life be an automatic consent to targeted analysis.

I get that cameras pointed at intersections and highways are here to stay. That means there will be records of what happens in public places that can be analyzed for a certain person's movements once there's a warrant.

That's the whole fucking point of warrants and 4th amendment protections. Just because the technical ability exists to analyze somebody's Personally Indentifiable Information doesn't mean you just get to do it. Just like you don't get to listen to any phone call you want, or plant bugs and trackers on everybody you are curious. (A group of three-letter agencies enters the chat, lol)

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Bingo. Any reasonable judge would toss these cases for not having probable cause.

This also seems like easy legislation at the federal level. "Driving patterns gleaned from the use of an ALPR system does not, by itself, constitute probable cause."

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

If they're going to keep doing ALPR cameras, license plates should be abolished, as they are compelled speech.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago

I remember seeing that documentary called Minority Report.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Yayyyy three cheers for pre-crime

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Not a new problem unfortunately.

Among the things courts or cops have deemed "suspicious":

Booking a nonstop flight

Booking a flight with a layover

Traveling alone

Traveling with a companion

People who appear nervous

People who appear ?too calm?

[–] Janx@piefed.social 6 points 15 hours ago

No, but now AI can mass-search for those reasons, or combine them, for all of us. You won't even know you were targeted as a political enemy until you're in an interrogation room...

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You left off these ones from the list which are pretty funny

Being the first person off a plane

Being the last person off a plane

Someone authorities believe has tried to blend in to the middle of exiting passengers'

So... getting off a plane then.

Being hatless

Being hatted

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Simple throughline, two options: "Bad Vibes" aka being a minority in America or "I need to impress my superior, and the best thing i could do would be whatever sherlock holmes does, but im an idiot so ill just roll the dice on the next guy and hope im right and get promoted :)"

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Basically, yeah. Law enforcement supervisors prefer higher arrest volume.

[–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ctOS from Watch Dogs was supposed to be a warning... It wasn't supposed to become a real system.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully its as easily hackable

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 196 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The police don't need a computer to suspect you. They already suspect you.

They need a computer to blame the mistake on.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Digital K9s for all the officers!

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 99 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Do you know why I pulled you over?"

"...do you?"

[–] XiJinpingStanAccount@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My go to response to that question is, "Because you thought I was Brad Pitt and you wanted my autograph? I know, I get it a lot." I look nothing like Brad Pitt.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah... if you're username is anything to go by, you look just like Winnie the Pooh

[–] Blibittyblah@futurology.today 12 points 1 day ago

I don’t need to know what you did to know my job

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The Wired article linked by the OP article mentions visiting multiple banks in a week as suspicious behavior that gets flagged… if we had a car (assuming it needs a license plate to attach to you and look up info), that would have pinged my spouse last week. Stupid fucks live in such ivory towers that they’ve never had a bank run out of quarters for the washing machine.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

so three empty ATMs can land me in jail. good to know.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

Side benefit of the extreme proliferation of gambling: basically every bar has a shitload of quarters now.

[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don’t know what a washing machine is. They likely think it’s to clean golf balls.

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I used to visit the bank way more often when living paycheck to paycheck because it was the only way to get ahead of insufficient funds charges. I was depositing cash from whatever I could sell to pay off the $25 per item overdraft fees.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got so tired of the quarters problem (bank online so I get ATM fees then have to go to a laundromat to pretend I’m doing laundry there) that I bought a whole-ass washing machine for $180 to avoid the problem.

I’m actually saving a ton of money and because my landlord is checked out and lives far from here he’ll never know we have a portable washer in our apartment.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I’m actually saving a ton of money and because my landlord is checked out and lives far from here he’ll never know we have a portable washer in our apartment.

Why would your landlord have a problem with a portable washer in your apartment? Is there language written into your lease prohibiting it?

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 points 11 hours ago

Apparently many leases do, but mine doesn’t. I’m sure it’s a liability thing especially with flooding or water damage.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

US police was using magic wands to detect drugs at schools and mark lockers that need to be searched. AI is not that strange.

It's like the magic drug dog that takes cues from the owner.

Looking for crimes, not criminals.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, it looks for the dark skinned people?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really wouldn't have been surprised, especially since ICE is one of the primary users of that kind of system.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

and its fed into palantir, which also profiles for things like demographics.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

"Just following AI's orders."

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Looks like the AI flagged you with code rgb(244,164,96)....

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Need a Bobby Tables style license plate.

Heh, I put the text of the joke in this post, but lemmy wouldn't let me submit. Let's hope the ALPR guys aren't as careful lol.

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