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Finnish police said on Thursday they had launched a criminal investigation into suspected breaches of environmental law at the construction site of a planned Google data centre in northern Finland.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly go after the contractors that did the clearing too. They should know that this kind of thing requires permits and google clearly didnt show them any proof of those.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

What if they knew, and did it anyways as fast as they could because the fine is nothing but the cost of doing business to them. Slap on the wrist, the trees are already dead, building it anyways shut up or Trump/the US will make your life terrible if you complain.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that's the point. For Google billions is the cost of doing business. For the contractors it could be criminal negligence which means personal liability.

For google its a slap on the wrist, for a construction contractor you might just bankrupt them out of existence with a big enough fine.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago

They were probably paid way more to clear it than fines would amount to.

[–] gressen@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The criminal investigation needs to be carried against the managers at Google, not some small-time contractors.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Did you see the size of that forest? Nothing small-time about that. 330 hectar, 250000 trees. Of course going after google has priority, but companies need to be scared to do things like this without checking very thoroughly that they are allowed to do it, otherwise anyone can just do anything and claim ignorance afterwards. There should be prison time for everyone who greenlit this.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Like, the guys collecting a check who drove the bulldozers? No, obviously leave them alone. But the owner of those dozers, that made a profit "moving fast and breaking things" needs more than a fine.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

for everyone who greenlit this

As in the people who decided that this project should be put in action yeah

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago

Just agreeing and reenforcing your point for the fella above

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

What would Pentti Linkola say about this I wonder :)

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 46 points 1 day ago

They need to be declined use of the site and forced to pay for revegetation.

Fuck AI and fuck Google

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Surely to God foreigners (especially foreign corporations) can't just come and do that shit in a country. There must have been some signoff by the local authorities, otherwise isn't that an invasion?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Judging from the content of the article, the problem is that Google's local subsidiary started on construction prematurely before the environmental assessment paperwork was complete (but after they already owned the site). Short of keeping a watch on the site 24/7, I don't see how the local authorities could have prevented that. It's possible that they may have been lazy and complacent, but absent actual evidence I doubt they were complicit.

Our society operates to a large extent on an underlying assumption that most people will not try to do anything blatantly illegal in plain view. Finland has just learned the hard way that this is not true of large American corporations.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

most people will not try to do anything blatantly illegal in plain view

And, as Microsoft's guy said last year, these motherfuckers think they have "social consent" (God I fucking hate that term) to do anything that isn't explicitly illegal under the letter of the law.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

No, it isn't an invasion. Google bought and owned this land, then started construction before getting the permits to do so.

This is like you buying a small vacation land by a lake in another country, then starting to build a cabin on it before getting permits to build. You aren't invading that country.