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[–] isekaihero@ani.social 7 points 13 hours ago

The USA sixth amendment has the confrontation clause, which gives the accused the right to face their accuser in court. If this were to happen here then we shouldn't have to play their games and hand over more of our personal information. We should be able to take the company to court for slander - they have accused us of a crime - and we should demand they present that evidence in court to justify that slander. Either they submit the evidence - allowing the accused to disprove it - or they don't present the evidence and the accused wins their slander case against the company.

That's how it should work. I don't know WTF the judicial system is going to do with AI lobbing criminal accusations at people. Maybe we end up living in a perpetual panopticon where AI is studying us every second of every day looking for some way to charge us with a crime.

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

its infuriating that law enforcement is this incompetent. to arrest innocent people is unacceptable. i hope they all get hundreds of millions each. these people cops need to learn lessons and get educated on the law so they dont enforce the laws wrong, like in this case

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh, not just arrest. I don’t know if it was Ai or not, but the 1y/o who was recently mudered by police was in the car with people falsely accused of shoplifting. The family was told by the courts that it was a “reasonable use of force”.

Wild that largely untrained cops can dole out the death penalty to a bystander for a crime that has little-to-no inherent urgency and would never carry a sentence even a fraction as severe.

[–] iuseasahibtw@ani.social 13 points 1 day ago

Imagine being hunted by the police because someone didn't run an update or is running the AI software through some shitty, 180p security camera.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That isn't kafkaesque, that's just authoritarian.

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

To be Kafkaesque is to not know what you are accused of and/or to have no real mechanism to defend the accusations. The Kafkaesque part is the private network of 'justice' that makes judgements which impact someone's access to basics like food based on an opaque algorithm with no recourse.

These private systems are worst when they are networks across multiple stores - you could imagine a future where, if left to the devices of late stage capitalism (i.e. not effectively regulated), it could become virtually impossible to buy food and other essentials once you are on a privately held denylist that retailers pay to access, where those on the list have no insights into how they got on the list nor any mechanism to correct any inaccuracies that unfairly led to them being on the list.

TL;DR: I think Kafkaesque is correct here.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

This is the thing, the AI just doesn't work. That's a faulty system, not a system that works as intended. Now if you wanna talk about the legal system they have to enter to prove thier innocence, well just to start the argument of innocence you have to pay. Depending on the amount of money you spend also affects the amount of innocent you are.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This will ultimately be the death of retail stores.

Half the reason anyone wants to go to a store in 2026 is to have a good time shopping in person. If going to the store leads to any chance of a shitty experience? Fuck it dude, I'll just order online like everyone else I suppose.

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[–] nerdo@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The world would be dramatically better if about 10,000 specific people died

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's so weird how little it takes to ruin a society

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

They were propped up by like 50 million lesser evils, looking after their own interests.

Yes, they are a power of their own now.

But still...

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[–] WhiplashPost@programming.dev 42 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Self Checkouts are not even self checkout anymore. You go up and scan your stuff then 2 times out of 3 someone has to come over and approve that you scanned everything. At that point just open the normal lanes back up

[–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

opening more lanes very obviously makes things better for customers but that's not even remotely the goal. self-checkout lets them slash their labor costs and give out more executive bonuses by just paying one employee to manage the entire self-checkout section. they wouldn't get to keep that money if they opened up more lanes and paid an employee per lane. so now every store has 20 lanes with at most three lanes open, and only if it's really slammed.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (6 children)

What is wild about all this is looking back to the old social contract and how it basically made this ~~fobitted~~ forbidden.

The best example is the movie minority report in which they had a fool proof way to 100% of the time predict the future.

I won’t spoil the movie, but the whole premise was that even if there was one instance of it making a mistake, and a innocent person was put on ice by mistake, then the whole thing had to be shut down.

And in today’s reality: all of big tech’s new tools make mistakes constantly, sometimes more than getting things right, and it’s still full steam ahead on the rollout.

MFW dystopian movies were too optimistic

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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 152 points 2 days ago (10 children)

The AI gets to accuse you based on a bad guess, while you have to file paperwork and surrender more personal data to prove you didn’t steal a pack of vitamins. »Innocent until proven guilty« is now a premium feature.

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